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Old 04-01-2011, 02:22 PM
 
Location: The City
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Interesting article on growth in city cores

Urban centers draw more young, educated adults - USATODAY.com

Top Adders of 25-34 year olds with at least a 4 year college education
1. NYC +26,125
2. Boston +20,558
3. Philadelphia +16,032
4. Chicago +15,887
5. DC +13,610

as noted in the article even Detroit added 2K in the core

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Old 04-01-2011, 02:36 PM
 
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Good to see the growth there. I think a lot of people keep saying that the "Return to the City" is elusive, but they fail to understand that it's going to take time to turn things around. Just like with Philly, where the tougher areas finally bled slower than the growth in the good areas. It's going to take time for the cores of many US cities to gain enough traction to allow the true growth to be seen. I believe it will keep going and bad neighborhoods will continue to be swallowed up by the good.

Btw - Did you see the comments below that article? Good lord, it's like a bunch of suburban housing developers bickering about the article in a nursing home.
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Old 04-01-2011, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Good to see the growth there. I think a lot of people keep saying that the "Return to the City" is elusive, but they fail to understand that it's going to take time to turn things around. Just like with Philly, where the tougher areas finally bled slower than the growth in the good areas. It's going to take time for the cores of many US cities to gain enough traction to allow the true growth to be seen. I believe it will keep going and bad neighborhoods will continue to be swallowed up by the good.

Btw - Did you see the comments below that article? Good lord, it's like a bunch of suburban housing developers bickering about the article in a nursing home.
Seriously! There were some pretty poor arguments being made from both sides haha

Cool stats though! Crazy to think that 65%+ of 25-34 year olds in some of those city centers have a college degree.
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Old 04-01-2011, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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•In five metropolitan areas — Boston, Chicago, New York, San Francisco, Washington — about two-thirds of young adults who live in the city center have at least a four-year college degree. Less than a third of the nation's 25- to 34-year-olds do.

If only 99.999% of them werent hipster yuppies. I would like to see more families in downtown too.
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Old 04-01-2011, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Denver
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•In five metropolitan areas — Boston, Chicago, New York, San Francisco, Washington — about two-thirds of young adults who live in the city center have at least a four-year college degree. Less than a third of the nation's 25- to 34-year-olds do.

If only 99.999% of them werent hipster yuppies. I would like to see more families in downtown too.
haha I loathe hipsters. My neighborhood (Allston-Brighton) has 80,000-85,000 people with a median age of 25.8 & 29.1 years (Two Zip Codes) and while there are a good amount of hipsters, they're largely outnumbered by regular people.

However, I will admit I see a lot of hipsters riding the Green Line with huge guitar cases coming back from Berklee.
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Old 04-01-2011, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh (via Chicago, via Pittsburgh)
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Great stats.. good to see young people flocking to cities.
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Old 04-01-2011, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Miami
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•In five metropolitan areas — Boston, Chicago, New York, San Francisco, Washington — about two-thirds of young adults who live in the city center have at least a four-year college degree. Less than a third of the nation's 25- to 34-year-olds do.

If only 99.999% of them werent hipster yuppies. I would like to see more families in downtown too.
Montclair, how many families can afford to live in the cores of New York, Boston and San Francisco?

The only families who can afford to do so are rich.

The median price for a 3 bedroom condominium

New York $3,600,000
San Francisco $1,700,000
Boston $942,000

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Old 04-01-2011, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Carrboro and Concord, NC
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Great article. It's interesting that this is one of few good trends in urban development we can see in every region as well - that is heartening. Percentage-wise, there are +20% jumps all over the country. Very important in reinventing some of the frost belt cities that have struggled, and just as important in sunbelt sprawlopolises that are making serious efforts to boost density.

It's a very heartening development in places like Buffalo and Detroit, which are filled with an abundance of character and great architecture, but also need a LOT of work and some pioneers to lead the way.

Just as great in places like my hometown of Charlotte. The jump there is precisely why light-rail has succeeded there - high density in the close-in corridor that was very, very well planned. Many people have said that the sunbelt needs more of this as well; this data (and what it has led to in some cities, like Charlotte) should motivate other sunbelt cities.

I'd like to see a bit more on some of the exceptions - OKC and Birmingham (we know the reasons behind NoLA).

I'd also like to see some similar data for smaller cities around the country. I know of several smaller cities - Asheville and Charleston spring to mind - that were pretty much dead cities until urban pioneers rebuilt them from the ground up, so this obviously pertains to cities in the 50,000-100,000 population range as well, given how those cities have returned from near death, back into prosperity over roughly 40 years.
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Old 04-01-2011, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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its really nothing new. most young people prefer living in cities and higher density areas. I know I did.

Eventually most hook up, have a kid and move to the burbs. happens with every generation - you'll see. I have a lot of friends that were hippies and punks (and even beatniks!) and many wound up living in the burbs or rural areas.

The readers comments were pretty amusing. What a bunch of a-holes.
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Old 04-01-2011, 03:42 PM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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Among second-tier U.S. cities...

+5,237 - Denver
+4,269 - Minneapolis
+4,083 - Portland
+4,033 - Columbus
+3,726 - Austin
+3,656 - Milwaukee
+3,155 - Pittsburgh
+2,700 - St. Louis

+2,670 - Indianapolis
+2,180 - Charlotte
+2,054 - Sacramento
+2,001 - Cincinnati
+1,937 - Nashville
+1,693 - Orlando
+1,671 - Raleigh
+1,302 - Cleveland
+1,300 - Kansas City

+974 - Tampa
+965 - Memphis

By the way, all the cities that smart, ambitious young people "can't wait to get the hell out of" are shaded in RED.
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