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Companies continue to move here, many from your region.
LMAO wishful thinking John, wishful thinking. There's no company in NYC that WANTS to be in Atlanta, your no Florida or Texas or even North Carolina. Those states are good for business, Georgia is a useless business state.
LMAO wishful thinking John, wishful thinking. There's no company in NYC that WANTS to be in Atlanta, your no Florida or Texas or even North Carolina. Those states are good for business, Georgia is a useless business state.
Between you and back2dc I don't know who is worse. I'm still trying figure out what are you getting out of all this.... you are definitely a KeKe...
LMAO wishful thinking John, wishful thinking. There's no company in NYC that WANTS to be in Atlanta, your no Florida or Texas or even North Carolina. Those states are good for business, Georgia is a podunk business state.
LOL! Tell it to UPS, which moved their global HQ's here from Fairfield County, CT. Tell it to Asbury Automotive Group, which moved here last year from New York. Tell it to General Electric, which moved their entire Energy division here from Schenectady. There are countless others.
Between you and back2dc I don't know who is worse. I'm still trying figure out what are you getting out of all this.... you are definitely a KeKe...
I'm convinced it's a simple case of jealousy. He can't stand the fact that he lives in a declining area, so attack the place people and companies are pulling up stakes for.
It's actually quite amusing to read some of his ridiculous rants.
I'm convinced it's a simple case of jealousy. He can't stand the fact that he lives in a declining area, so attack the place people and companies are pulling up stakes for.
It's actually quite amusing to read some of his ridiculous rants.
Who you telling its funny.. as hell.. Talk about obsession lol
Ah John, you are quite entertaining. The typical southerner response "yall look at us yall, we growin' yall" guess what John we keep all our relevant companies here and export the podunk businesses that cant make it. UPS, Asbury Automotive? LMAO might as well put Pillsbury and Kids R' Us on the list too, podunk and useless companies. Your greased up deep south wont ever get relevant companies like Goldman Sachs, Verizon, etc because those companies have no desire to move and if they did, Georgia? LMAO deep southern Georgia? The Georgia that was once attached to the hip to greasy Alabama?? LMAO!!
Like I already mentioned, although NY and NJ are no longer business competitive states to attract more businesses Georgia isnt close to the best either which are always Florida, Texas, North Carolina, and Virginia. The saying is true the best states the south has to offer are the ones on the edge of the south, and furthest away from greasy deep southern states like Alabama, Georgia, etc..
I wholeheartedly agree! As fascinating as it was here is one from May 9th, 2011
"The office vacancy rate in the Atlanta market area increased to 17.4% at the end of the first quarter 2011. The vacancy rate was 17.2% at the end of the fourth quarter 2010, 17.3% at the end of the third quarter 2010, and 17.2% at the end of the second quarter 2010."
The source I usually use for commercial market info (Grubb-Ellis) actually has the vacancy rate significantly higher, at 22.8%. Surprisingly, Buckhead has the highest rate in the city with 27.1% vacancy.
However, John said the national vacancy rate was 13.7%, but according to Grubb-Ellis, the rate is actually 17.7%...so it's not as bad as it sounds.
Unfortunately it does have one of the highest vacancy rates in the nation.
Bottom CBD Vacancy Rates of Major Cities
1. Detroit 30.5%
2. San Jose/Silicon Valley 27%
3. Dallas 24.9%
4. Phoenix 24.2%
5. Miami 23.4%
6. Cleveland 22.4%
7. Atlanta 22.2%
8. St. Louis 19.1%
Bottom Suburban Vacancy Rates of Major Cities
1. Phoenix 29%
2. Chicago 25%
3. Detroit 24.9%
4. Central & Northern New Jersey 23.5%
5. Las Vegas 23.5%
6. Dallas 23.1%
7. Atlanta 22.9%
8. San Francisco 22.1%
So while Atlanta has greater troubles than most in this category, it certainly isn't the worst and it hopefully can only go up from here.
I've been to Atlanta John and have also been to San Diego and Baltimore, Atlanta feels about their size on metro and much much smaller by city. Atlanta feels the same size as Orlando, difference is Orlando is too poor of a hillbilly swamp to afford skyscrapers but without Ted Turner the same can be said for Atlanta.
I told you… “I dare you to post a US metro in the 3 million range that's under 2,000 sq mi. seriously”.......... and you failed, So far you have said.....
San Diego has 3,095,313 in 4,199.89 sq mi Baltimore has 2,710,489 in 3,104.4 sq mi Orlando has 2,134,411 in 4,012 sq. mi.
Atlanta's 5 county core has 3,365,297 in 1,731.03 sq mi
So while Atlanta has greater troubles than most in this category, it certainly isn't the worst and it hopefully can only go up from here.
But you see, Atlanta won't go up from here. It's only going down. Let me count the ways:
1) There will never again be another Olympics or similar event of the same size/scale in Atlanta. Nothing of that magnitude, which spurred growth in the 90s, will be granted to Atlanta, especially after it bungled the '96 games and shamed the whole country with its yee-haw ineptitude.
2) The American economy will never again reach the speculative real estate bubble that overbuilt the sprawl in Atlanta after the Olympics push. The real estate bubble of the '00s and the Olympics build up during the '90s are what drove the economy. What's next? There is nothing on the horizon. In fact, suburban style cities such as Atlanta are the anti-trend right now.
3) Rising energy costs. Expensive gasoline will make the sprawling suburbs of Atlanta cost-prohibitive to do business. Huge, cheaply built McMansions will cost too much to cool/heat in the coming years. There are no extensive heavy or light rail network plans other than the Beltline. But this appears to be stalled. It's been eleven years since it was first proposed and for all intents and purposes, the Beltline has been downgraded from a light rail line to a glorified bike path. It will never receive enough funding.
4) American politics. The Teaparty/Republican low taxes mantra is wearing at the seams. All it took was Paul Ryan's threats to cut Social Security and Medicare, and scared American senior citizens will be voting Democrat again by 2012 to protect these benefits. In a similar vein states with low tax rates like Georgia are not reaping the benefits they did in the 80s. Greedy corporations will move offshore for even cheaper labor than in the non-union South.
5) Local politics. The rest of Georgia hates Atlanta and inter-county squabbling prevents the metro from developing a cohesive transportation plan. The Republicans see mass transit as socialism because it won't turn a profit. Most Atlantans view the two-line MARTA system as outdated, unreliable and crime-infested. Which spills into the next point...
6) Racial politics. Face it, Atlanta is the capital of the Deep South with all the racial baggage that comes with the territory. In addition it has marketed itself in the past 10 years as the capital of hip-hop, with all the pluses and minuses that come with that title. It doesn't take a genius to figure out how the rest of the country now views Atlanta. In fact, many of its residents are just as concerned about how it is perceived by outsiders. Read below:
I told you… “I dare you to post a US metro in the 3 million range that's under 2,000 sq mi. seriously”.......... and you failed, So far you have said.....
San Diego has 3,095,313 in 4,199.89 sq mi Baltimore has 2,710,489 in 3,104.4 sq mi Orlando has 2,134,411 in 4,012 sq. mi.
Atlanta's 5 county core has 3,365,297 in 1,731.03 sq mi
I’m still waiting........ And how old are you?
I can't speak for Orlando, but for Baltimore and San Diego you are forgetting that these metros contain very dense areas where most of its residents live and then very rural areas with open land and no residents. This is due to strict zoning and smart city planning as well as topography. There are also bodies of water and mountains to consider, although less of the latter with Baltimore.
Anyone with a brain and two eyes can figure out that those figures are misleading. Atlanta is the poster-child for sprawl due to its haphazard zoning policies and extremely poor city planning. Why are you trying to refute the one achievement Atlanta has rightfully earned???
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