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I've never been to Oklahoma City, but I can't imagine it's as bad as you think it is. At least not so bad where you would have to drive seven hours to St. Louis to entertain yourself -- I think your notion of St. Louis and Oklahoma City being radically different is a little outdated, frankly.
St Louis and OKC could not be more different. But then again, you have never been to OKC...
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OK I'm finish messing around with Kansas City and St. Louis , had a get my jabs in for KCMO taking jabs at Oklahoma City and Tulsa LOOL that's Laughing Out Loud COOL....howest2008 style....
I'm not bothered one bit by crime in kc and stl. Both cities are perfectly safe and I feel the cities are no more of a risk than any other major city. Stats may rank them high, but the fact is, crime is just not an issue in either city unless you are involved with drugs, gangs etc and hang out in the parts of town doing stupid things like drugs and drive by shootings.
If you are a normal person, kc and stl are no more dangerous than any other city.
Having said that, I realize they’re not elite cities, but Missouri is where most of my family and friends are so that's why it will always be at the top of my list.
I actually like Denver and Minneapolis better than both KC and StL. But KC and StL dangerous? Please.
They ARE dangerous. You're in denial if you think innocent people are simply exempt from being a victim of violent crime. Innocent people are often targets in a robbery. Being shot is less likely, but in any case I certainly wouldn't want to take the extra risk to put myself in an area where gunfire is a daily event. Such is the case with St. Louis - you don't have to venture far at all from the (small) core before hitting crime-infested, bombed-out "neighborhoods." After visiting again last year I remembered why most people rightly consider it to be one of America's biggest dumps.
I can think of few cities worse than St. Louis. Sure, some urbanists like it because it has lots of pre-war buildings and walkable, "urban" neighborhoods that give the illusion of density, but beneath that facade it is a decaying and filthy place with little vibrancy. Cities are about people, diversity, and excitement and St. Louis offers very little in that regard. There are suburbs of Dallas and Houston with more culture and nightlife than St. Louis. Even KC is exciting relative to St. Louis.
^Couldn't disagree more with you. Have you actually spent much time in St. Louis? Such an assesment leads me to believe that you have not. Heck the Central West End alone is more exciting than just about any neighborhood in the other cities you have mentioned.
They ARE dangerous. You're in denial if you think innocent people are simply exempt from being a victim of violent crime. Innocent people are often targets in a robbery. Being shot is less likely, but in any case I certainly wouldn't want to take the extra risk to put myself in an area where gunfire is a daily event. Such is the case with St. Louis - you don't have to venture far at all from the (small) core before hitting crime-infested, bombed-out "neighborhoods." After visiting again last year I remembered why most people rightly consider it to be one of America's biggest dumps.
I can think of few cities worse than St. Louis. Sure, some urbanists like it because it has lots of pre-war buildings and walkable, "urban" neighborhoods that give the illusion of density, but beneath that facade it is a decaying and filthy place with little vibrancy. Cities are about people, diversity, and excitement and St. Louis offers very little in that regard. There are suburbs of Dallas and Houston with more culture and nightlife than St. Louis. Even KC is exciting relative to St. Louis.
Man I feel sorry for you if you are scared to enjoy a city like StLouis because you are worried about being shot or robbed. That is just so silly. Most areas of StL City are fine and even if you do venture into the "bad" areas, the chances of you being shot or robbed and minimal unless you partake in criminal activity yourself. StL has plenty of vibrant, busy and highly livable areas in the city. I guess you need your hand held when visiting some cities, but it may be worth it rather than writing them off as slum cities
Man I feel sorry for you if you are scared to enjoy a city like StLouis because you are worried about being shot or robbed. That is just so silly. Most areas of StL City are fine and even if you do venture into the "bad" areas, the chances of you being shot or robbed and minimal unless you partake in criminal activity yourself. StL has plenty of vibrant, busy and highly livable areas in the city. I guess you need your hand held when visiting some cities, but it may be worth it rather than writing them off as slum cities
The chances of being shot and mugged are a great deal greater in Kansas City and St. Louis than in Oklahoma City.
Man I feel sorry for you if you are scared to enjoy a city like StLouis because you are worried about being shot or robbed. That is just so silly. Most areas of StL City are fine and even if you do venture into the "bad" areas, the chances of you being shot or robbed and minimal unless you partake in criminal activity yourself. StL has plenty of vibrant, busy and highly livable areas in the city. I guess you need your hand held when visiting some cities, but it may be worth it rather than writing them off as slum cities
Believe me, I'm not scared to visit St. Louis, nor would I be scared to live there. My point is that the probability of being a victim of violent crime is so much higher in St. Louis than in most other US cities that it detracts from the overall quality of life there (not that it is high to begin with). I have personally seen more than enough of St. Louis - including its nicer areas - to write it off as a giant ****hole. You may beg to differ - but then again you find KC exciting which throws your judgment into question.
Believe me, I'm not scared to visit St. Louis, nor would I be scared to live there. My point is that the probability of being a victim of violent crime is so much higher in St. Louis than in most other US cities that it detracts from the overall quality of life there (not that it is high to begin with). I have personally seen more than enough of St. Louis - including its nicer areas - to write it off as a giant ****hole. You may beg to differ - but then again you find KC exciting which throws your judgment into question.
I been to St. Louis and if you hang out in the Tourist area's it's pretty safe...but it's still one of AMERICA'S top 3 or 4 most dangerous cities..which WASHINGTON DC once upon a TIME WAS....LOL
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