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Old 02-01-2012, 08:39 AM
 
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Can't agree with your rationalle on some of these things, especially Music, Recreation, Transportation and Diversity:

Music: Cleveland has an amazing Opera.
Recreation: Minneapolis' is more active and more bountiful, regardless of weather.
Transportation: Minneapolis freeways are FAR busier and jammed compared to Cleveland -- it's night and day different. However, Cleveland has the better infrastructure. Either way, Cleveland is better because of the infrastructure and relative ease of getting from point A to point B with little traffic.
Diversity: Technically, the Twin Cities are more diverse, but Cleveland is (far) more African American/black, if that's how we're measuring diversity. Cleveland is currently working on opening offices for immigration to entice more immigrants to move here, while Minneapolis is one of the up-and-coming newer immigration magnet cities in the country (along with Seattle, Detroit and Atlanta), not to confuse this with the "Biggest" magnets in the country: Miami, New York, LA, SF and Chicago.
Point 1: I'm sure Cleveland has a good opera. Not really the point.

Point 2: I thought I stated that Minneapolis was more active.

Point 3: Cleveland is a smaller city compared to the larger Twin Cities metro area so yes, it is going to have more people on the roads.

Point 4: There is no comparing Cleveland and Minneapolis on this front. Cleveland is much more diverse.
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Old 02-01-2012, 11:14 AM
 
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Point 4: There is no comparing Cleveland and Minneapolis on this front. Cleveland is much more diverse.
LOL. Cleveland is much more diverse in terms of what?

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Old 02-01-2012, 11:24 AM
 
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Cleveland:
According to the 2010 Census, Cleveland had 53.3% African American, 37.3% White (33.4% Non-Hispanic Whites), 0.3% Native American, 1.8% Asian American, 0.0% Native Hawaiian and other Pacific Islander, 4.5% of some other race, and 2.8% from two or more races. Hispanic and Latino Americans of any race accounted for 10.0% of its population, with Puerto Ricans being the majority of the group.

Minneapolis:
As of the 2010 U.S. census, the racial composition was as follows:

White: 63.8%
Black or African American: 18.6%
American Indian: 2.0%
Asian: 5.6% (1.9% Hmong, 0.9% Chinese, 0.7% Indian, 0.6% Korean, 0.4% Vietnamese, 0.3% Laotian, 0.2% Filipino, 0.1% Japanese, 0.5% Other Asian)
Native Hawaiian/Pacific Islander:
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Old 02-01-2012, 11:28 AM
 
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Cleveland:
According to the 2010 Census, Cleveland had 53.3% African American, 37.3% White (33.4% Non-Hispanic Whites), 0.3% Native American, 1.8% Asian American, 0.0% Native Hawaiian and other Pacific Islander, 4.5% of some other race, and 2.8% from two or more races. Hispanic and Latino Americans of any race accounted for 10.0% of its population, with Puerto Ricans being the majority of the group.

Minneapolis:
As of the 2010 U.S. census, the racial composition was as follows:

White: 63.8%
Black or African American: 18.6%
American Indian: 2.0%
Asian: 5.6% (1.9% Hmong, 0.9% Chinese, 0.7% Indian, 0.6% Korean, 0.4% Vietnamese, 0.3% Laotian, 0.2% Filipino, 0.1% Japanese, 0.5% Other Asian)
Native Hawaiian/Pacific Islander:
So, having a large African American population makes a metro area more diverse?

Foreign born population of each metro (as of 2009):

Minneapolis MSA: 296,932
Cleveland MSA: 116,192

Foreign born population of each city (as of 2009):
Minneapolis: 59,093
Cleveland:19,495
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Old 02-01-2012, 11:31 AM
 
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Yes. It does. 63.8% white is not diverse. Please google diversity. 60%+ of any race =/= diverse.

HTH.
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Old 02-01-2012, 11:34 AM
 
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Yes. It does. 63.8% white is not diverse. Please google diversity. 60%+ of any race =/= diverse.

HTH.
Foreign born population of each city (as of 2009):
Minneapolis: 59,093
Cleveland:19,495

Even St. Paul has a much higher foreign born population at 42,669.

The End.
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Old 02-01-2012, 11:37 AM
 
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Foreign born? LOL. Please google diversity and get back to me.
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Old 02-01-2012, 11:40 AM
 
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Foreign born? LOL. Please google diversity and get back to me.
Hate to break it to you, but diversity is not only about race. It includes differences of race, ethnicity, national origin, color, disabilities, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, and age. It also includes political and religious affiliation and socioeconomic status. That said, Cleveland does not surpass Minneapolis.

Drop this argument before you embarrass yourself.
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Old 02-01-2012, 11:41 AM
 
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/facepalm
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Old 02-01-2012, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Cleveland bound with MPLS in the rear-view
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Yes. It does. 63.8% white is not diverse. Please google diversity. 60%+ of any race =/= diverse.

HTH.
Usually you use METRO stats for diversity, not city.
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