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View Poll Results: Which area has the most vibrant and noticeable Latin population
Chicago 28 32.18%
SF Bay 28 32.18%
DFW 31 35.63%
Voters: 87. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-01-2011, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Originally Posted by Lifeshadower View Post
Chicago Latinos: 43.3% foreign born
DFW Latinos: 45.2% foreign born
Bay Area Latinos: 43.9% foreign born

(Took the Latin American foreign born and divided it into the number of total Hispanics there are. I couldn't get data for Puerto Rican foreign born, but it should be released with the rest of the census)
The difference is very slim.

I actually thought Dallas and Chicago would be much higher than the Bay Area because the Bay Area is supposed to have a much longer history with Hispanics, since Northern California was once a major colony of Mexico-hence we should in theory have less far less foreign born as many of our Hispanics are multi-generational. Guess not.
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:08 AM
 
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The difference is very slim.

I actually thought Dallas and Chicago would be much higher than the Bay Area because the Bay Area is supposed to have a much longer history with Hispanics, since Northern California was once a major colony of Mexico-hence we should in theory have less far less foreign born as many of our Hispanics are multi-generational. Guess not.
you have to remember to things.

1. People don't live forever.

2. People have kids.

Do you think the hispanic born peeps in Dallas come here and twiddle their thumbs and play monopoly? nah, they drop 6 or 7 kids. That turns the odds into 2 to 7. With those high odds I am surprised that Dallas can maintain such high foreign born percentages.

That reminds me of a 3rd thing.

3. New Hispanics are very catholic and have a much higher birthrate.
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:26 AM
 
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Furthermore, as in countless other racial and ethnic groups, when it comes to racial diaspora, the Bay Area's Hispanic population is far more spread out in the entire Metro Region:

CSA Counties by Hispanics as a Percentage of the Population, 2010 Census, 20%+ in bold red.

Chicago CSA:
Kane, IL 30.7%
Cook, IL 24.0%
Lake, IL 19.9%
Lake, IL 16.7%
Kendall, IL 15.6%
Will, IL 15.6%
DuPage 13.3%
Kenosha, WI 11.8%
McHenry, IL 11.4%
DeKalb, IL 10.1%
Kanakee, IL 9.0%
Porter, IN 8.5%
Grundy, IL 8.2%
LaPorte, IN 5.5%
Jasper, IN 5.4%
Newton, IN 5.0%

Dallas CSA:
Dallas, TX 38.3%
Tarrant, TX 26.7%
Ellis, TX 23.5%
Somervell, TX 19.2%
Denton, TX 18.2%
Johnson, TX 18.1%
Palo Pinto, TX 17.7%
Wise, TX 17.1%
Kaufman, TX 17.0%
Rockwall, TX 15.9%
Cooke, TX 15.6%
Colin, TX 14.7%
Hunt, TX 13.6%
Grayson, TX 11.3%
Parker, TX 10.6%
Hood, TX 10.2%
Fannin, TX 9.5%
Delta, TX 5.5%

San Francisco CSA:
San Benito, CA 56.4%
Napa, CA 32.2%
Santa Cruz, CA 32.0%
Santa Clara, CA 26.9%
Sonoma, CA 24.9%
San Mateo, CA 25.4%
Contra Costa, CA 24.4%
Solano, CA 24.0%
Alameda, CA 22.5%
Marin, CA 15.5%
San Francisco, CA 15.1%

Also,
Dallas County, TX is home to nearly half of the hispanics in that CSA, and Cook County, IL is home to the nearly two-thirds of the hispanics in that CSA.

Meanwhile the Bay Area, no individual county accounts for more than a quarter(more or less) of the total Hispanic population of the entire CSA.
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:33 AM
 
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Furthermore, as in countless other racial and ethnic groups, when it comes to racial diaspora, the Bay Area's Hispanic population is far more spread out in the entire Metro Region:

CSA Counties by Hispanics as a Percentage of the Population, 2010 Census, 20%+ in bold red.

Chicago CSA:
Kane, IL 30.7%
Cook, IL 24.0%
Lake, IL 19.9%
Lake, IL 16.7%
Kendall, IL 15.6%
Will, IL 15.6%
DuPage 13.3%
Kenosha, WI 11.8%
McHenry, IL 11.4%
DeKalb, IL 10.1%
Kanakee, IL 9.0%
Porter, IN 8.5%
Grundy, IL 8.2%
LaPorte, IN 5.5%
Jasper, IN 5.4%
Newton, IN 5.0%

Dallas CSA:
Dallas, TX 38.3%
Tarrant, TX 26.7%
Ellis, TX 23.5%
Somervell, TX 19.2%
Denton, TX 18.2%
Johnson, TX 18.1%
Palo Pinto, TX 17.7%
Wise, TX 17.1%
Kaufman, TX 17.0%
Rockwall, TX 15.9%
Cooke, TX 15.6%
Colin, TX 14.7%
Hunt, TX 13.6%
Grayson, TX 11.3%
Parker, TX 10.6%
Hood, TX 10.2%
Fannin, TX 9.5%
Delta, TX 5.5%

San Francisco CSA:
San Benito, CA 56.4%
Napa, CA 32.2%
Santa Cruz, CA 32.0%
Santa Clara, CA 26.9%
Sonoma, CA 24.9%
San Mateo, CA 25.4%
Contra Costa, CA 24.4%
Solano, CA 24.0%
Alameda, CA 22.5%
Marin, CA 15.5%
San Francisco, CA 15.1%

Also,
Dallas County, TX is home to nearly half of the hispanics in that CSA, and Cook County, IL is home to the nearly two-thirds of the hispanics in that CSA.

Meanwhile the Bay Area, no individual county accounts for more than a quarter(more or less) of the total Hispanic population of the entire CSA.
In Dallas's defense the bulk of the population is centered around Tarrant and Dallas counties (that is rapidly changing). Furthermore these counties are large. So it is unfair to say that the population of hispanics are not spread out because the entire population is not spread out, not just hispanics.

same with Chicago. Cook County alone has more people than the SF metro area.
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:38 AM
 
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Originally Posted by 18Montclair View Post
Furthermore, as in countless other racial and ethnic groups, when it comes to racial diaspora, the Bay Area's Hispanic population is far more spread out in the entire Metro Region:

CSA Counties by Hispanics as a Percentage of the Population, 2010 Census, 20%+ in bold red.

Chicago CSA:
Kane, IL 30.7%
Cook, IL 24.0%
Lake, IL 19.9%
Lake, IL 16.7%
Kendall, IL 15.6%
Will, IL 15.6%
DuPage 13.3%
Kenosha, WI 11.8%
McHenry, IL 11.4%
DeKalb, IL 10.1%
Kanakee, IL 9.0%
Porter, IN 8.5%
Grundy, IL 8.2%
LaPorte, IN 5.5%
Jasper, IN 5.4%
Newton, IN 5.0%

Dallas CSA:
Dallas, TX 38.3%
Tarrant, TX 26.7%
Ellis, TX 23.5%
Somervell, TX 19.2%
Denton, TX 18.2%
Johnson, TX 18.1%
Palo Pinto, TX 17.7%
Wise, TX 17.1%
Kaufman, TX 17.0%
Rockwall, TX 15.9%
Cooke, TX 15.6%
Colin, TX 14.7%
Hunt, TX 13.6%
Grayson, TX 11.3%
Parker, TX 10.6%
Hood, TX 10.2%
Fannin, TX 9.5%
Delta, TX 5.5%

San Francisco CSA:
San Benito, CA 56.4%
Napa, CA 32.2%
Santa Cruz, CA 32.0%
Santa Clara, CA 26.9%
Sonoma, CA 24.9%
San Mateo, CA 25.4%
Contra Costa, CA 24.4%
Solano, CA 24.0%
Alameda, CA 22.5%
Marin, CA 15.5%
San Francisco, CA 15.1%

Also,
Dallas County, TX is home to nearly half of the hispanics in that CSA, and Cook County, IL is home to the nearly two-thirds of the hispanics in that CSA.

Meanwhile the Bay Area, no individual county accounts for more than a quarter(more or less) of the total Hispanic population of the entire CSA.
Dallas, Chicago and SF for order of vibrancy among latino population. Even your stats prove this.

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Old 11-01-2011, 11:44 AM
 
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In Dallas's defense the bulk of the population is centered around Tarrant and Dallas counties (that is rapidly changing). Furthermore these counties are large. So it is unfair to say that the population of hispanics are not spread out because the entire population is not spread out, not just hispanics.

same with Chicago. Cook County alone has more people than the SF metro area.
This doesnt really change the fact that in the Bay Area, Hispanics are far more visible in the entire Metro Region.
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:45 AM
 
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Dallas, Chicago and SF for order of virbrancy among latino population. Even your stats prove this.
No, I just proved that our Hispanics are not confined to urban slums and little districts dedicated to making white people feel 'diverse'.

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Old 11-01-2011, 11:46 AM
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Dallas, Chicago and SF for order of virbrancy among latino population. Even your stats prove this.
How exactly do his stats prove that?
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:50 AM
 
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This doesnt really change the fact that in the Bay Area, Hispanics are far more visible in the entire Metro Region.
a rather small region in physical size tho. You reall cannot compare CSAs when comparing the bay to DFW. For DFW you are adding physically large land areas that are sparsely populated. For the Bay you are adding cities that are bigger than your main city. It is rather deceiving. besides, when people go around looking for Hispanic culture and vibrancy they are probably looking in the central counties, not areas 35 miles from the core. Doubt there is anywhere in the Bay CSA that is 35 miles from the core counties
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Old 11-01-2011, 12:01 PM
 
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No, I just proved that our Hispanics are not confined to urban slums and little districts dedicated to making white people feel 'diverse'.

So, you are assuming that hispanics live in poor areas of other cities? What prejudice! I am highly offended.
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