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Old 11-05-2011, 09:48 PM
 
Location: West Cobb County, GA (Atlanta metro)
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Variations of this topic come up somewhat regularly, so rather than many combinations popping up over and over, please take a look at this recent article that highlights the stats for the best cities to live in if you don't have (or don't wish to use) a car: best-cities-car-free-247: Personal Finance News from Yahoo! Finance

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Old 11-05-2011, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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Surprised to see many of the cities like Honolulu, SLC, and Denver. Even more surprised to see you post here.
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Old 11-05-2011, 10:04 PM
 
Location: So California
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The Best Cities to Live in Car Free

1. San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA

2. Portland-Vancouver-Beaverton, OR-WA

3. New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island, NY-NJ-PA

4. Honolulu, HI

5. Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA

6. San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA

7. Denver-Aurora, CO

8. Salt Lake City, UT

9. Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA

10. Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, MA-NH
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Old 11-06-2011, 01:21 AM
 
Location: san francisco
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Variations of this topic come up somewhat regularly, so rather than many combinations popping up over and over, please take a look at this recent article that highlights the stats for the best cities to live in if you don't have (or don't wish to use) a car: best-cities-car-free-247: Personal Finance News from Yahoo! Finance

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someone is lying. i swear everybody tells me, even people who live here in san francisco, that new york's public transportation is way better. people here complain because transportation, including the muni and the bart, don't really take you to every neighborhood. and i even read somewhere FROM the muni that said, muni was the least reliable transportation system in the country.

just today, i was told i needed to get off of the T-line on 3rd and Marin because they were stopping that line. It was only 9pm. I saw the time for the next train and I had to wait 37 minutes. Needless to say, I was enraged. I had to go walking a mile and a half to get home. I opted to buy groceries instead and walk all the way home then to wait another half hour. I had already been waiting 30 minutes for that line to get me. In total it was a 2.5 hour trip to get back home. I only live 6 miles away from work and that's how long it took me to get back home. go figure.

If san francisco is number 1, then new york must be devastatingly atrocious.
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Old 11-06-2011, 03:11 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I am actually not surprised to find Los Angeles on the top 10 cities
The rapid bus transit system in Los Angeles is excellent
that combined with the light & heavy rail as well as the underground
gives it a great coverage for a place as big as Los Angeles
I could only imagine where would LA rail transit would be by know if the
city had not scrapped the rail red cars in the 60's


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Old 11-06-2011, 07:46 AM
 
Location: So California
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someone is lying. i swear everybody tells me, even people who live here in san francisco, that new york's public transportation is way better. people here complain because transportation, including the muni and the bart, don't really take you to every neighborhood. and i even read somewhere FROM the muni that said, muni was the least reliable transportation system in the country.

just today, i was told i needed to get off of the T-line on 3rd and Marin because they were stopping that line. It was only 9pm. I saw the time for the next train and I had to wait 37 minutes. Needless to say, I was enraged. I had to go walking a mile and a half to get home. I opted to buy groceries instead and walk all the way home then to wait another half hour. I had already been waiting 30 minutes for that line to get me. In total it was a 2.5 hour trip to get back home. I only live 6 miles away from work and that's how long it took me to get back home. go figure.

If san francisco is number 1, then new york must be devastatingly atrocious.
It doesn't mean that NYs transit isn't better necessarily. It's a combination of factors. You gotta read it....
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Old 11-06-2011, 08:35 AM
 
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IF LA is so easy to live without a car, why doesn't a greater % of LAers live without cars.
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Old 11-06-2011, 08:41 AM
 
Location: West Paris
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IF LA is so easy to live without a car, why doesn't a greater % of LAers live without cars.


the culture of the car..
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Old 11-06-2011, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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I have never seen a list that included Los Angeles as being a great city to live in without a car and have no mention of Chicago on it.

Chicago > Los Angeles when it comes to public transportation.
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Old 11-06-2011, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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This list is about taking the bus mainly and coverage in neighborhood with bus access mainly. It's probably pretty accurate considering the main requirements. If your city has suburbs that really don't have great bus access, then that city wouldn't make a list like this. For people who take buses without much rail access, I can see how great it must be for those cities to have those buses especially with the lack of a major rail system.

It's also about amenities in neighborhoods. Areas with high poverty in certain areas will not make this list because of realities like food deserts that exist in many low income communities.
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