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Oh please Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse and Albany all have metros over or close to one million, and while there are "some" redneck types(hello Olean and Rushford) NYS is not mostly made up of hillbillies! California is a beautiful state and I have been there about 6 times and just love it there! NYS is great too, with NYC, Lake Placid, Lake George, Niagara Falls, Adirondack mountains, Catskills, Hamptons, Saratoga Springs etc Both are great and varied states!
That's exactly what I said and thats exactly what you listed. NYC + a couple of other major metros. The rest are vacation spots for people from those major metros (Lake Placid, Finger Lakes, Niagara, Catskills) or state parks. The rest is pretty much hillbilly land and random military towns. The cities you listed do not take up much of the NYS land area at all.
I'm familiar with NYC and Albany, and have spent smaller amounts of time in Buffalo and Niagara. There's lots and lots of gorgeous scenery, and at the end of the day, NYC brings the rest of the state up quite a bit in terms of desirability (at least, how I define it).
That's exactly what I said and thats exactly what you listed. NYC + a couple of other major metros. The rest are vacation spots for people from those major metros (Lake Placid, Finger Lakes, Niagara, Catskills) or state parks. The rest is pretty much hillbilly land and random military towns. The cities you listed do not take up much of the NYS land area at all.
Luckily you are not representative of the total NYC population at all. My family from Brooklyn is not even this close-minded about what goes on outside of NYC.
That's exactly what I said and thats exactly what you listed. NYC + a couple of other major metros. The rest are vacation spots for people from those major metros (Lake Placid, Finger Lakes, Niagara, Catskills) or state parks. The rest is pretty much hillbilly land and random military towns. The cities you listed do not take up much of the NYS land area at all.
Wait? What??
NYS is a small state, not in population of course, but in land size. Buffalo, Niagara Falls and Rochester pretty much take up the western end, Syracuse and Albany the middle, NYC takes up downstate, so the only part of NYS that I can think of that is mainly rural is up in the Adirondacks area and I fail to see how that is "most" of NYS?
Luckily you are not representative of the total NYC population at all. My family from Brooklyn is not even this close-minded about what goes on outside of NYC.
Too bad the numbers are not on your side. I mean, this is pretty easy.
NYS population is 19 mil people.
NYC metro part of NYS is 14 mil people, plus 3 major 1 million metros (Rochester, Buffalo, and Albany) - you get 17 million people right there.
17 million people out of 19 million living in like what? 10% - 15% of the land area of the state at best.
Syracuse metro is 700k easily. That leaves you with like 1.3 million people on 80% of the land area of the state. And unlike California where you have uninhabitable land due to terrain, most of that rural NYS area is actually habitable.
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I've lived in both states, but not in the big cities. I'd say the main difference is simply climate. California's weather is better (aside from some very hot inland areas). It's more comfortable to be outside in the lower humidity, which also results in fewer biting insects. You can walk in California redwoods or the mountains without being assaulted by mosquitoes and gnats.
New York is not just very cold and snowy in the winter, but also tends to have older homes and apartments with crappy old heating systems that aren't efficient and may not be controlled in an individual apartment by thermostat, making it too hot or cold.
Upstate New York has the edge in pizza and traditional Italian foods, for what that's worth.
I don't think there's any huge difference in job opportunities between the two places over a long period of time, say 10 years, but I could be wrong.
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Believe it or not, California is even more lopsided in terms of population centers vs rural. The big 'uns are LA/San Diego (same place) and San Francisco metro. There are millions of acres of national forests and parks. There just isn't much of anything big north of Sacramento and the Bay Area, and plenty of space in the southern half too.
Believe it or not, California is even more lopsided in terms of population centers vs rural. The big 'uns are LA/San Diego (same place) and San Francisco metro. There are millions of acres of national forests and parks. There just isn't much of anything big north of Sacramento and the Bay Area, and plenty of space in the southern half too.
It kills me that some think that's a 'bad" thing. I love cities, but I love natural, untouched beauty as well and think it's great if a state can have a balance of both, and I think both Cali and NY do have a great balance of both.
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I agree, aggie.
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Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse and Albany all have metros over or close to one million, and while there are "some" redneck types(hello Olean and Rushford) NYS is not mostly made up of hillbillies! California is a beautiful state and I have been there about 6 times and just love it there! NYS is great too, with NYC, Lake Placid, Lake George, Niagara Falls, Adirondack mountains, Catskills, Hamptons, Saratoga Springs etc Both are great and varied states!
