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I've eaten Italian all over the place and I would say the northeast is best by far. I did not find one city to outshine the other. I've had equally good dishes in NYC as I had in smaller heavily Italian towns upstate such as Rome. Everywhere from Boston to Buffalo(and everywhere in between) has had equally good food in my opinion.
I've eaten Italian all over the place and I would say the northeast is best by far. I did not find one city to outshine the other. I've had equally good dishes in NYC as I had in smaller heavily Italian towns upstate such as Rome. Everywhere from Boston to Buffalo(and everywhere in between) has had equally good food in my opinion.
This is something I dont think most people even realize (the smaller cities). Some of which are even more Italian % wise, and have Italian better than youd find in NYC or Philly for that matter.
Rome is basically the same area as Utica, they have tomato pie and riggies there.
I agree though. It seems like each city has something distinct about it. All good.
Bland? Interesting...I think stereotypical Italian food is a bit like Mexican, based a lot around a few ingredients. In this case cheese and tomato dominate.
Real Mexican and Italian food in their native countries is much more varied and interesting than what you can often find in the US or other countries where immigrants settled. What you get is often an Americanized version of a few certain dishes that were transformed by immigrants after they resettled.
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Originally Posted by RaymondChandlerLives
Italian cuisine is great and MUCH more varied than this country's offerings would lead you to believe. Starchy pasta and marinara just scratch thr surface over there. Here, they dominate.
Excatly. And not to knock old fashioned "Red Sauce" spots--those can be pretty fun and tasty. But it's bascially a version of certain dishes that originated in Napoli(Naples) and brought over to places like New York. Sunday gravy or ragu based dishes can be delicious, but it really that's just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Italian cooking. It's nothing like what'd you eat in the region around Venice or Tuscany or the Piedmont. And when you throw in the islands like Sicily and Sardinia, you've got an even greater range of styles.
Italian food in places like the North End in Boston--can be very delicious and i'ts not entirely removed from authentic Southern Italian, but it's still more Italian-American styles than traditional Neapolitan. There's authentic regional Italian in the US, but often it will be more upscale restaurants or places staffed by recent Italian transplants from regions all over Italy. The Italian food in the downtown Little Italy in New York is pretty mediocre,though there's really good Italian restaurants scattered in different locations all over all 5 bouroughs. In San Francisco, the Italian food in North Beach is a mixed bag these days(along with the cannolis), but Italian fisherman from Genoa were responsible for creating the cioppino--the spicy seafood stew that's probably the best regional specialty in the area.
Because if not... wow. The resentment and anger expressed in response to the so-called "pretentious" restaurant is more appalling to me than the $135 prices. I like restaurants like that from time to time. I don't make a lot of money, but it's fun to do something high end like that from time to time. That $135 isn't just for food. It's for an experience. It's for top of the line service, it's for an incredibly nice setting, AND for picture perfect food. How's that any worse than spending $100/each for tickets plus $10/beer and $6 per hot dog at a [insert the name of country music star here] concert?
We all have preferences for recreation and we'll all spend money to do what we like. Shelling out $135 each at a nice restaurant doesn't make you any more pretentious than shelling out $135 each for tickets and beer at a concert. Me? I'm going to the nice restaurant 100 times out of 100. I commute to work on a subway car that costs $1.75 each way and live in a 700 sq foot apartment. Hardly "elite."
The "this is 'Merica" outrage about "pretentious" Yankees is fairly hypocritical seeing as the "Merica" crowd tends to think they're better then the rest of the planet.
Now listen here Mr. Fox, and listen up close. Have you ever heard that song that goes a lil something like this... "Where I come from, it's corn bread and chicken"
Now I want you to think about that a bit, and you kno where that is? The U S of A. Not fancy schmancy Italy that people want to be sipping their expensive Char Do NAYYY and etc and being pretentious.
Now did you see that menu?! It is astronomical.
You are being wasteful going to restaurants like that, a materialist. You should be thankful in the morning that your lady can make you some biscuits from scratch or some corn bread and milk. That will fill your belly more than a few green beans or gobbling more imported mushrooms with fancy sauce from some italian chef on the food network.
I would never pay that much for a beer, is tha twhat they charge over in fancy yankee doodle Boston?
Talking about your subways already, just like I thought. How do you think that is funded, by spending money like the greed monglers? I went once and saw a rat the size of an armydillo, won't do that again.
Now you have a nice day sir mr fox and just remember how this country got made, by blood, sweat, good home meals, not fancy people trying to be Italians and Parisians.
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