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I'm sorry but it's really not. I, by no means, would ever consider midwestern states like Missouri to be northern states.
Sorry but you're really wrong. You live in Massachusetts. You know nothing about the Midwest. Have you ever been to Missouri? Missouri is more of a Northern a state than a Southern one and this is backed up by most demographics outside of religion, culture, and linguistics. Don't make me school you.
From a historical perspective, the North consists of the Northeast and what was then called the Northwest before the U.S. expanded westward, now dubbed the Midwest (i.e., the states that remained in the Union minus MD and KY). So technically yes, the Midwest is Northern but most people today just say "Northeast" or "Midwest" when referring to each region.
Kentucky was never considered part of the Midwest. That state is Southern in every single way. Maryland is for the most part a Northeastern state before a Southern one in the vast majority of the state save Southern Maryland.
Virginia was once the 'landed gentry' of the South. Same with South Carolina and Georgia. Today, there is more difference between the western mountain part of Virginia, which has some commonality with Kentucky, than the eastern 'tidewater' part of the state, as well, 'blue grass' Kentucky is very different than eastern Kentucky.
Kentucky was never considered part of the Midwest. That state is Southern in every single way. Maryland is for the most part a Northeastern state before a Southern one in the vast majority of the state save Southern Maryland.
Reread my post. I said that historically, the North was pretty much the equivalent of the Union states, minus KY and MD.
Virginia was once the 'landed gentry' of the South. Same with South Carolina and Georgia. Today, there is more difference between the western mountain part of Virginia, which has some commonality with Kentucky, than the eastern 'tidewater' part of the state, as well, 'blue grass' Kentucky is very different than eastern Kentucky.
SC, yes; not so much GA though as it was founded as a penal colony.
Kentucky, but barely. Kentucky seems to hold onto more traits that are typically viewed as “southern,” such as conservative politics, evangelism, country and bluegrass music, and a local culture revolving around bourbon and horses. There’s something about the Kentucky Derby that screams “southern” to me, despite the fact that Louisville is borderline Midwestern.
Virginia has an edge if we’re talking about the Civil War or the antebellum South, but in today’s world, it’s clear that a lot of stereotypical southern traits aren’t as strong as they used to be, especially in the areas near D.C.
Is this even a contest today? No doubt, Kentucky feels more culturally Southern to me, whenever I've visited both states. Though I don't doubt there's Midwest influence in the culture in both Louisville, and the 3 'northern Kentucky' counties south of Cincinnati. Although Southern culture still coexists in Louisville and northern Kentucky, no doubt.
Finally I get the sense more people from other parts of the US have moved into Virginia in recent years, vs. Kentucky. Especially the northern counties of the state, south and west of DC.
Is this even a contest today? No doubt, Kentucky feels more culturally Southern to me, whenever I've visited both states. Though I don't doubt there's Midwest influence in the culture in both Louisville, and the 3 'northern Kentucky' counties south of Cincinnati. Although Southern culture still coexists in Louisville and northern Kentucky, no doubt.
Finally I get the sense more people from other parts of the US have moved into Virginia in recent years, vs. Kentucky. Especially the northern counties of the state, south and west of DC.
Historically, Virginia might be a better answer. Not only was Richmond the capital of the Confederacy, but Robert E. Lee was from Virginia, as well. In the 1950s, Virginia resisted the integration of public schools in a pretty strong manner, almost like the Deep South states. Finally, Virginia had a prominent planter class, primarily in the Tidewater region. Today, you’re correct, though. Northern Virginia just doesn’t feel very southern anymore.
This relationship is kind of similar to North Carolina’s relationship with Tennessee. The state to the west is more southern (Tennessee) than the state to the east (North Carolina).
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