Pacific Northwest vs. Deep South - which has better cities & scenery? (live, best)
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Dead looking. You don't even post any winter pictures because you know how lifeless it looks.
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The Sabal Palmetto is not the hardiest of palms, and the Southern ecosystem is infinitely more active year-round than any other ecosystem in the CONUS. That is fact, and no-one with any ecological sense would dispute that.
Actually it is, the hardiest palms that are native to the US are all from the Southeastern US. They have to be to survive those frigid arctic temps in winter the South regularly sees. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hardy_palms
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I know common thunderstorms tend to scare West Coasters who never experienced them, since the heaviest rain they are used to is cold drizzles, but please, the Southern climate is far from violent and deadly.
During the summer, you have lots of thunderstorms, meaning lots of time to enjoy the show, Netflix and chill, play Xbox, PS4, etc. Then, the sun will come out shortly (unlike in the PNW, where rainy weather systems last the whole day), making for bright times outdoors; great evenings in the cooler, rain-cooled air ensue, good for outings at restaurants, night-clubs, etc.
No deadly weather scares us because you know, it kills people.
You even have a cute nickname for the area with all the deadly tornadoes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixie_Alley
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The hurricane threat is far overblown; any given area of the southern coastline isn't likely to always be under-the-gun for hurricanes all the time. Even when they are present, hurricanes are by far the easiest disaster to prepare for, with weeks at time for prep to be made. Also, weak hurricanes, or tropical storms, don't really do much damage; one can basically just Netflix and chill with no problem. Because of how little damage can be, there is a reason why hurricane parties are thrown: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_party
I feel more sorry for the people who commit suicide in the gray cloud of depression that is the PNW much of the year.
I feel sorry for all the people who don't choose to but still die from all the deadly weather in the South.
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It also yields bountiful subtropical agriculture people all over the US take for granted today (cotton, tobacco, indigo, rice, sugar cane, citrus, bananas, mangos, guava, coconuts, etc).
Stop trying to ride South Florida's nuts, Mississippi and Georgia aren't growing coconuts and mangoes.
Guess you take the good with the bad. Enjoy your sugar cane as the mosquitoes swarm all around and spread the Zika virus.
They're in Florida not Louisiana, Georgia, etc..or that mud hole that you call the Texas coastline.
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Tell that to the Native Americans who did so for thousands of years, as well as to the people who lived there since before the mid-20th century, with the advent of A/C. As I've show in the postcards of Houston and New Orleans, even without A/C, Southern cities were thriving and full of commerce.
Houston was small before AC, NOLA is an exception. Few people migrated to the South before A/C because it's so unlivable to all but the hardiest of people. With the oppressive summers and violent, deadly weather it takes a lot to live there. Probably why it's the least developed region of the US with Human Development Index ratings on par with developing countries.
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Just your jealousy because the rest of the CONUS isn't as exotic as the Southeast.
No wonder you're always comparing the south to regions full of third world countries, it goes beyond just climate I see!
Brunei, Slovenia, Greece, Bahrain, Cyprus, Portugal, Spain, Kuwait, Qatar etc.. have better human development index than FL? Hmm..Cuba better than OK, TN? The Arab countries keep their women in burqas, even in 2016. Spain has 22% unemployment and things are not too bad there as in some other European countries. Is this a liberal San Fransicko link? Also from 2009? Nice..
In addition, haven't you been following the financial crisis in Europe past 6 yrs? Do you think that has not affected many countries' HDI or their per capita? Btw, CA almost went bankrupt in 2011, just like Greece(both largely welfare places), so I wouldn't talk about what states are 3rd world.
And Spanish moss oak trees don't go dead in the winter either (at least by the gulf states).
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it is subjective to say PNW is better than western SC, etc. I prefer the Blue Ridge Mountains, etc to Mt. Rainier, etc.
SC is not even in the 'Deep South' anyway. It was one of the original colonies. Deep South refers to the southern states that grew after US won its independence, where cotton the cash crop was king, MS, AL, and LA. 'Deep' is deep in relation to the northeast.
I did not see it.I googled "number one city people ar are moving to " and the only thing that came up was a CNN survey from 2014 and it had Atlanta at the top.
it is subjective to say PNW is better than western SC, etc. I prefer the Blue Ridge Mountains, etc to Mt. Rainier, etc.
SC is not even in the 'Deep South' anyway. It was one of the original colonies. Deep South refers to the southern states that grew after US won its independence, where cotton the cash crop was king, MS, AL, and LA. 'Deep' is deep in relation to the northeast.
South Carolina is most certainly the Deep South. The Deep South also can be referred to as the states that seceded immediately upon Lincoln's election or Fort Sumter, one of the two I can't remember, but they were the first to secede. With the exception of Texas, which I consider the Western South, that includes the states of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, and Florida. You excluded Georgia, are you going to tell me now that Georgia isn't the Deep South, which is a flat out lie. South Carolina was not only among the first to secede, it was the VERY first, and in many respects South Carolina encompasses Southerness at its most extreme. Not to mention it is due east of central Georgia, central Alabama, and central Mississippi. To say South Carolina is not the Deep South is one of the most idiotic things I've ever heard. If South Carolina is not the Deep South, there is no Deep South.
I grew up in SC. What about you? No history teacher that I had ever referred to it as the 'Deep South'.
Georgia could be included in Deep South b/c I believe much of the southern portion of the state was added to the state after the US was formed. Its two oldest cities are Savannah and Augusta, both on the Savannah River, across from SC.
To separate out SC from NC and VA is silly. Our history is similar to NC and VA as compared to FL, LA, MS, etc.
Brunei, Slovenia, Greece, Bahrain, Cyprus, Portugal, Spain, Kuwait, Qatar etc.. have better human development index than FL? Hmm..Cuba better than OK, TN? The Arab countries keep their women in burqas, even in 2016. Spain has 22% unemployment and things are not too bad there as in some other European countries. Is this a liberal San Fransicko link? Also from 2009? Nice..
In addition, haven't you been following the financial crisis in Europe past 6 yrs? Do you think that has not affected many countries' HDI or their per capita? Btw, CA almost went bankrupt in 2011, just like Greece(both largely welfare places), so I wouldn't talk about what states are 3rd world.
And Spanish moss oak trees don't go dead in the winter either (at least by the gulf states).
Sure some of these might have changed a little but I doubt anything that drastic. It still illustrates the point that southern states generally are the least developed and advanced in the US, that is well known except to those in denial of reality.
California's HDI is actually slightly higher than in 2009 FYI.
it is subjective to say PNW is better than western SC, etc. I prefer the Blue Ridge Mountains, etc to Mt. Rainier, etc.
SC is not even in the 'Deep South' anyway. It was one of the original colonies. Deep South refers to the southern states that grew after US won its independence.
I definitely agree; and even still, I think the "Deep South," is more geographically diverse than the PNW.
I grew up in SC. What about you? No history teacher that I had ever referred to it as the 'Deep South'.
Georgia could be included in Deep South b/c I believe much of the southern portion of the state was added to the state after the US was formed. Its two oldest cities are Savannah and Augusta, both on the Savannah River, across from SC.
To separate out SC from NC and VA is silly.
South Carolina has more in common with Georgia than NC and VA. SC is not the Upper South.
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The Arab countries keep their women in burqas, even in 2016. Spain has 22% unemployment and things are not too bad there as in some other European countries. Is this a liberal San Fransicko link? Also from 2009? Nice..