Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Celebrating Memorial Day!
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S. > City vs. City
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 08-10-2012, 09:00 AM
 
Location: The City
22,378 posts, read 39,002,578 times
Reputation: 7976

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicago60614 View Post
Are we talking all of lower Manhattan against just the Loop, or the lower Manhattan Financial District vs the Loop. The second two line up more. "Lower Manhattan" has way more than just their financial district.
Yeah and for the most part none are truly an island to themselves. Either these are absolutely two of the best locales in the country. I am a big fan of both.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 08-14-2012, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Chicago
303 posts, read 580,652 times
Reputation: 213
Comparing both financial districts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-14-2012, 05:59 PM
 
115 posts, read 118,849 times
Reputation: 36
The Loop is only second to Midtown in the country, and that considers Downtown Manhattan.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-14-2012, 06:08 PM
nei nei won $500 in our forum's Most Engaging Poster Contest - Thirteenth Edition (Jan-Feb 2015). 

Over $104,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum and additional contests are planned
 
Location: Western Massachusetts
45,983 posts, read 53,600,834 times
Reputation: 15184
The Loop is the bigger business district than Lower Manhattan (at least using Canal St as the border). While the Loop is a bit of a 9-5 office district, there's still some stuff going on off hours. The Financial District is far more dead off hours. If you're talking about Lower Manhattan as a whole, than Lower Manhattan is the more vibrant one.

I still give an edge to Lower Manhattan as I find the narrow streets and claustrophobic skyscraper canyon neat (and unique). For example the Loop has nothing similar to this:

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=nassa...77.51,,0,-3.74
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-17-2012, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Earth
2,549 posts, read 3,988,543 times
Reputation: 1218
The Loop also has the canyon effect but what makes it unique from Manhattan's downtown is hearing the EL trains roaring along the tracks above the streets while seeing the flashes of random electric sparks. The view of the Loop from the trains above the streets just seem more scenic.

Loop, Chicago, IL - Google Maps

The Loop also has some narrow street lanes beneath parts of the EL tracks. There are also narrow alleys between the buildings.

Loop, Chicago, IL - Google Maps

As for Midtown, you could combine the Loop, downtown Boston, downtown Philly and Manhattan's Downtown together and it would still be bigger. Midtown is basically the city of cities. Hong Kong or Sao Paulo are probably the only cities in the world that could give Midtown a run for it's money.

Last edited by urbanologist; 08-17-2012 at 10:01 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-18-2012, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Arizona
3,763 posts, read 6,721,777 times
Reputation: 2398
Lower Manhattan would win IMO because of the VPD and walkability.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-18-2012, 10:46 AM
nei nei won $500 in our forum's Most Engaging Poster Contest - Thirteenth Edition (Jan-Feb 2015). 

Over $104,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum and additional contests are planned
 
Location: Western Massachusetts
45,983 posts, read 53,600,834 times
Reputation: 15184
Quote:
Originally Posted by urbanologist View Post
The Loop also has the canyon effect but what makes it unique from Manhattan's downtown is hearing the EL trains roaring along the tracks above the streets while seeing the flashes of random electric sparks. The view of the Loop from the trains above the streets just seem more scenic.

Loop, Chicago, IL - Google Maps

The Loop also has some narrow street lanes beneath parts of the EL tracks. There are also narrow alleys between the buildings.

Loop, Chicago, IL - Google Maps

As for Midtown, you could combine the Loop, downtown Boston, downtown Philly and Manhattan's Downtown together and it would still be bigger. Midtown is basically the city of cities. Hong Kong or Sao Paulo are probably the only cities in the world that could give Midtown a run for it's money.
The Chicago River, Millennium Park all add to the scenic ness.

But the Loop's streets are nowhere as narrow as Lower Manhattan. Skyscrapers actually front streets that would be considered alleyways.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=70+Pi...317.67,,0,-8.3

one of the tallest buildings in the city

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=70+Pi...51.25,,0,-2.36

https://ssl.panoramio.com/photo/1277482

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&l...88.14,,0,-3.69
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-18-2012, 10:47 AM
 
Location: NYC/D.C.
362 posts, read 666,602 times
Reputation: 210
Even though the loop is bigger, LM has a little more going on after hours. However, as someone said before, the loop does makes up for this by having the El, which weaves between the skyscrapers and is a really cool sight. Although, the buildings in LM seem slightly more compact.

Overall, I think their both great financial districts. The two biggest in the country.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-19-2012, 04:13 PM
 
425 posts, read 372,479 times
Reputation: 138
Quote:
Originally Posted by urbanologist View Post
As for Midtown, you could combine the Loop, downtown Boston, downtown Philly and Manhattan's Downtown together and it would still be bigger. Midtown is basically the city of cities. Hong Kong or Sao Paulo are probably the only cities in the world that could give Midtown a run for it's money.

Huh????


Are you including the Near North Side into the Loop? Cause theres two parts to Chicago's CBD.

Anyway, theres no way in hell all of DT Chicago, Boston, Philly AND DT Manhattan dont match Midtown. Thats absurd. That would easily surpass Midtown.

Id say Chicago and downtown Manhattan would be close enough.

Quote:
According to Grubb Ellis this is the top CBD's:

1. Midtown Manhattan- 213,818,31
2. CBD Chicago- 130,317,15
3. CBD DC- 107,337,31
4. DT Manhattan- 76,000,76
5. MT S Manhattan- 74,577,47
6. CBD Boston- 64,407,32
7. CBD SF- 45,176,67
8. CBD Philadelphia- 44,261,375
9. CBD Houston- 43,214,941
10. CBD LA- 32,159,55
11. Minneapolis- 28,299,243 (The report lists St P separately and then combines them in the end as one district)
12. Pittsburgh- 27,841,801 (they included fringe areas)
13. CBD Dallas- 26,890,00 (The report lists FW separately and then combines them in the end as one district)
14. Denver- 26,493,570
15. Cleveland- 21,969,702
16. Portland- 19,779,070
17. CBD Atlanta- 17,288,368
18. Phoenix- 15,779,714
19. Indianapolis- 14,709,070
20. Detroit- 13,187,372
21. Miami- 13,133,897
22. Milwaukee- 12,439,588
23. Columbus- 12,289,442
24. Cincinnati- 11,919,525
25. San Diego- 11,393,918
26. St Paul- 10,059,518
27. Fort Worth- 9,956,82
28. Austin- 8,490,93
29. San Jose- 8,355,347
206,317,910 vs. 213,818,310

Last edited by resuelppA; 08-19-2012 at 04:27 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-19-2012, 04:22 PM
 
425 posts, read 372,479 times
Reputation: 138
Speaking in terms of office space ^^^^^

In terms of geographic area?

59th street down to 34th, to both rivers, is actually comparable to all of DT Chicago.


NYC just simply has more office space in roughly the same area.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S. > City vs. City
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top