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I was going to go with NYC judging from other people's sentiments.
Eh. I'd put Chicago ahead of NYC, as I said before. Coverage is extensive, though one can't take a local bus from Brooklyn into Manhattan. Of course, not a great comparison as the more extensive subway service covers much more trips.
Eh. I'd put Chicago ahead of NYC, as I said before. Coverage is extensive, though one can't take a local bus from Brooklyn into Manhattan. Of course, not a great comparison as the more extensive subway service covers much more trips.
Oh wow that is interesting. The thing with the LA buses is that you can get just about anywhere from anywhere on the buses, though you will most likely have to transfer and it will most likely take a fairly long time if traveling a large distance - both the positive and the negative above is resulting from the grid-based system.
One advantage Chicago has over LA and NYC is the lack of geography getting in the way. It's tough to traverse those rivers and bays in New York City, and it is difficult to run a bus across the Santa Monica Mountains (I think the only two buses that traverse them are on Sepulveda and Cahuenga - though maybe Laurel Canyon has a bus [it does]?).
Very familiar with both, I can't imagine too many people having the opinion that NYC's is better.
Well then I am comfortable arguing that LA has the best bus system in the country (though I've never ridden the bus in Chicago before so wouldn't be shocked to find it is better).
I was just trying to be modest.
Though I'm not sure how would you measure which bus system is better- Extent of coverage, total service hours, frequency of service, number of riders?
Is the "bus stigma" a negative point against LA's system or as long as the ridership is high it doesn't matter? Seattle's bus system seemed like it had very good coverage. Vancouver's system covers all the parks / mountains just north of the city.
High local traffic makes NYC's bus system not run very well, though they could try better.
Is the "bus stigma" a negative point against LA's system or as long as the ridership is high it doesn't matter? Seattle's bus system seemed like it had very good coverage. Vancouver's system covers all the parks / mountains just north of the city.
High local traffic makes NYC's bus system not run very well, though they could try better.
I vote for as long as the ridership is high it doesn't matter that much. LA has a very good bus system and a lot of people use it--that's that. It needs to be supplemented by better rail connections for going longer distances, but it's still quite good. Seattle's system is great--clean, efficient, and friendly. They use rfid cards to get on so boarding is quick and they also have a nice free zone downtown. Both the drivers and the passengers were some of the nicest/most polite I've ever met.
NYC's bus system is alright due to being very extensive and running 24/7. It also has some express services. It's not the best with the metrocard system they have and some rowdiness every once in a while, but it's pretty good.
Is the "bus stigma" a negative point against LA's system or as long as the ridership is high it doesn't matter? Seattle's bus system seemed like it had very good coverage. Vancouver's system covers all the parks / mountains just north of the city.
High local traffic makes NYC's bus system not run very well, though they could try better.
I think in LA it is more a "public transportation stigma" than a "bus stigma" - with every city there is a bit of an anti-bus sentiment and I don't think it is particularly worse in LA than anywhere else I've lived. And no I don't think it counts against the system even if there is a stigma.
Is the "bus stigma" a negative point against LA's system or as long as the ridership is high it doesn't matter?
For purposes of this thread, no, it doesn't matter. In the grand scheme of things, then yes, it does matter.
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