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I tried explaining that to him once before. I guess he didn't believe me.
Either way, I don't think a single NY-Philadelphia CSA is going to happen, unless transportation between the two becomes much cheaper and quicker.
Our conversation was about Philadelphians playing up their similarities to New Yorkers. However, even if the two cities merge, I for one would have enough sense to know not to combine them as one area.
The cities of Washington and Baltimore and their suburbs were combined after the 1990 Census into a Washington-Baltimore Consolidated Metropolitan Statistical Area (CMSA).
Our conversation was about Philadelphians playing up their similarities to New Yorkers.
And by making statements like "Philly can't wait to be a part of the New York CSA," you're implying as such.
Baltimore and DC are 40 miles apart. Philly and New York are 100. It's just inherently more feasible for people from the outer Baltimore/DC suburbs to work in their opposing cities.
Speaking of York County, I'm surprised that it hasn't become part of the Baltimore metro yet. Between I83 looking like absolute hell during the work week with PA residents, transit that connects York county with Downtown Baltimore via Baltimore county, It's kind of surprising.
but still far more to the Harrisburg area to the Baltimore MSA is about 7-8% based on the 2000 data that may have changed a bit. Is still about 13K so sizable but small relative to the 200K workers from York county with decent amounts into Harford and Carroll county (even aproaching 1,00 to AnneArundal surprisingly - that would seem to be a hell commute everyday
And by making statements like "Philly can't wait to be a part of the New York CSA," you're implying as such.
Baltimore and DC are 40 miles apart. Philly and New York are 100. It's just inherently more feasible for people from the outer Baltimore/DC suburbs to work in their opposing cities.
It honestly wasn't, but I can understand why you think that. My initial comment was just a friendly jab at Philly as I had also taken one at NYC, DC, and Baltimore. No need for Philly to reassert its location and stature among Bos-Wash cities. I know where it stands.
I tried explaining that to him once before. I guess he didn't believe me.
Either way, I don't think a single NY-Philadelphia CSA is going to happen, unless transportation between the two becomes much cheaper and quicker.
technically the CSA is met today (speaks to fickleness of census designations) - Mercer now exceeds 25% into the NYC MSA making an MSA connection
Bucks actually comes close to the 15% to the NYC MSA with Mercer
Burlington is approaching 20% (exceeding the 15%) connection to the NYC MSA with Mercer included.
That said dont see the census creating the connection and also both area are extremely distinct with grey areas in the small distance that connects the counties and job centers in between the two cities
It honestly wasn't, but I can understand why you think that. My initial comment was just a friendly jab at Philly as I had also taken one at NYC, DC, and Baltimore. No need for Philly to reassert its location and stature among Bos-Wash cities. I know where it stands.
Forgive me for not taking your "friendly" jab as a joke. It would help if you had a friendlier posting history. I also don't see how pointing out the unfeasibility of a Philadelphia-New York commute split ala Baltimore-Washington is "reasserting its location and stature." You don't have to be pro-Philadelphia to look at a map and use common sense.
but still far more to the Harrisburg area to the Baltimore MSA is about 7-8% based on the 2000 data that may have changed a bit. Is still about 13K so sizable but small relative to the 200K workers from York county with decent amounts into Harford and Carroll county (even aproaching 1,00 to AnneArundal surprisingly - that would seem to be a hell commute everyday
Traveling to Anne Arundel county from anywhere other than Howard county is a hell of a commute. Anywhere that one has to drive on 70, 95, 695, 83 becomes a hell of a commute.
Forgive me for not taking your "friendly" jab as a joke. It would help if you had a friendlier posting history. I also don't see how pointing out the unfeasibility of a Philadelphia-New York commute split ala Baltimore-Washington is "reasserting its location and stature." You don't have to be pro-Philadelphia to look at a map and use common sense.
My posting history isn't indicative of the fact that I no longer argue on city data or anywhere else for that matter. I went out of my way to avoid an argument with you by sending you a direct message during our last conversation. Furthermore, CSA designations go by commuter patterns from one metro to another, not city to city.
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