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It has its flaws, but the assertion that its a luddite sports-bar-and-hotdogs town full of generic middle Americans is pretty outdated. I can see it ruffling a few feathers.
The comparison is with NYC, not with Eau Claire, Wisconsin. In this context, it isn't unreasonable to point out that Chicago isn't very cosmopolitan compared to major coastal cities, to say nothing of NYC,
Compared to NYC, then, yes, Chicago is much less cosmopolitan, and much more filled with Midwest frat boys and the like. Not compared to other Midwest cities, obviously, where Chicago looks good in comparison.
But I don't think Chicagoans on this thread are saying they're more cosmopolitan than Fort Wayne. That's quite obvious. Chicago is often found lacking compared to other major cities, though.
The comparison is with NYC, not with Eau Claire, Wisconsin. In this context, it isn't unreasonable to point out that Chicago isn't very cosmopolitan compared to major coastal cities, to say nothing of NYC,
Compared to NYC, then, yes, Chicago is much less cosmopolitan, and much more filled with Midwest frat boys and the like. Not compared to other Midwest cities, obviously, where Chicago looks good in comparison.
But I don't think Chicagoans on this thread are saying they're more cosmopolitan than Fort Wayne. That's quite obvious. Chicago is often found lacking compared to other major cities, though.
You are either a troll or have no idea what you are talking about.
Lets talk cosmopolitan first, here are what I would consider to be the major coastal cities in this country (I might be missing a few):
Boston, NYC, Philly, Baltimore, DC, Miami, Houston, San Diego, LA, San Fran, Seattle
Of that list, NYC is the only city that is clearly more cosmopolitan than Chicago; an argument can be made for LA, but Chicago is more cosmopolitan than Miami, San Fran, DC in my opinion.
How about "frat boy culture": Chicago is composed of 77 official neighborhoods, and sterotypically there are 2, count them 2, that are known to have the "frat boy culture": Lakeview and Lincoln Park.
Edit: virtually everyone of your posts is bashing Chicago; if you do not enjoy Chicago it says more about you as a person than the city.
The comparison is with NYC, not with Eau Claire, Wisconsin. In this context, it isn't unreasonable to point out that Chicago isn't very cosmopolitan compared to major coastal cities, to say nothing of NYC,
Compared to NYC, then, yes, Chicago is much less cosmopolitan, and much more filled with Midwest frat boys and the like. Not compared to other Midwest cities, obviously, where Chicago looks good in comparison.
But I don't think Chicagoans on this thread are saying they're more cosmopolitan than Fort Wayne. That's quite obvious. Chicago is often found lacking compared to other major cities, though.
Like many of yours, this is just a crappy post, which oddly enough, wreaks of insecurity and provincialism.
Like many of yours, this is just a crappy post, which oddly enough, wreaks of insecurity and provincialism.
Which is an interesting and very telling response, since this whole thread is filled with insecure, provincial folks claiming the Midwest is the diverse, cosmpolitan center of the nation, and using anecdotes like "Gee, I'm not from the Midwest, therefore the statistics on diversity, foreign-born population, college of origin, etc. must be wrong!"
Which is an interesting and very telling response, since this whole thread is filled with insecure, provincial folks claiming the Midwest is the diverse, cosmpolitan center of the nation, and using anecdotes like "Gee, I'm not from the Midwest, therefore the statistics on diversity, foreign-born population, college of origin, etc. must be wrong!"
You are acting like you are providing numerous facts to back up your claims; you have provided zero facts/statistics to back up anything. Zero.
In addition, what is wrong with being from the midwest?
Which is an interesting and very telling response, since this whole thread is filled with insecure, provincial folks claiming the Midwest is the diverse, cosmpolitan center of the nation, and using anecdotes like "Gee, I'm not from the Midwest, therefore the statistics on diversity, foreign-born population, college of origin, etc. must be wrong!"
LOL you jealous bruh that Philly doesn't get the love Chicago or San Francisco get?
TBH, Chicago grows on you. It's a nice city, when winter is over I'm going to do a double trip for Chicago and Toronto.
Actually, I'd say Chicago and Philly are very similar in that they are often unfairly stigmatized for their very poor and violent neighborhoods. San Francisco is more of a "showcase city" like Boston and yes gets tons of love.
As far as the frat scene thing, when I visited Chicago I mainly went out around Wrigley Field and of course the college crowd was in full force, but I obviously understood that this was only one aspect of Chicago. To me, Chicago truly is the "second city" in the US. I loved the skyline, public transit, food, bar scene, the lake, sports culture. And I agree with those that say NYC also has a fratboy element as well, and IMO even worse, a Wall Street type element.
You can't stereotype any city that has more than a Million people and over 100 Square Miles IMO. And even stereotypes on smaller cities don't always gel with reality.
[quote=PA Born;27377385]Which is an interesting and very telling response, since this whole thread is filled with insecure, provincial folks claiming the Midwest is the diverse, cosmpolitan center of the nation, and using anecdotes like "Gee, I'm not from the Midwest, therefore the statistics on diversity, foreign-born population, college of origin, etc. must be wrong!"[/quote]
Where has anyone claimed this? We're simply refuting your unsupported and unsubstantiated comments that all Chicagoans hang out only with clans of grads from their respective BigTen schools. Go back and re-read your comments. You're the one with the inflammatory comments about Chicago, the rest of us are just calling you out. The burden rests with you. BTW-- If NYC is so great, why not be above the fray. Most Chicagoans I know have no problem giving NYC props. Seems to me you have a bit of a chip on your shoulder about Chicago. Am I right?
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