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View Poll Results: Which city will get an IKEA first?
Indianapolis, IN 44 45.36%
Raleigh, NC 40 41.24%
Greensboro, NC 1 1.03%
Hampton Roads, VA 12 12.37%
Voters: 97. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-01-2013, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Chicago(Northside)
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Who's debating? I am pointing out specifics, such as:
You are and your debating on rather or not this or that, this will stop now. Cincinnati has one and Cleveland doesnt Ikea choosed Cincy for many reasons.
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Old 03-01-2013, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR -> Rocky River, OH
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Not true i honestly dont feel like debating about nothing.
Dude, he's not debating anyone. All I've seen him do is provide facts and do simple math.

From what I can tell:

NE Ohio is 4.5 million
SW Ohio (plus N Kentucky plus SE Indiana?) is 3.2 million

Yes, both could independently support an IKEA, but I can see some parts of eastern ohio would simply head to Pittsburgh.

It does seem interesting Cleveland has received the snub by IKEA -- it's gotta be the largest CSA (2.9 million with Cleveland-Akron only) to not have an IKEA in the whole US.
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Old 03-01-2013, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Chicago(Northside)
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Dude, he's not debating anyone. All I've seen him do is provide facts and do simple math.

From what I can tell:

NE Ohio is 4.5 million
SW Ohio (plus N Kentucky plus SE Indiana?) is 3.2 million

Yes, both could independently support an IKEA, but I can see some parts of eastern ohio would simply head to Pittsburgh.

It does seem interesting Cleveland has received the snub by IKEA -- it's gotta be the largest CSA (2.9 million with Cleveland-Akron only) to not have an IKEA in the whole US.
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Old 03-01-2013, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Who said anything about having 5 Ikeas? Where are you getting that number from? It doesn't matter if Cincinnati has one or not, Cleveland and NE Ohio could easily support one, and Pittsburgh's Ikea is much closer than Cincinnati's. Cleveland has the 5 million mark in NE Ohio, Ikea looks around for a range of cities in one area. Adelaide, South Australia has one and it is in a state of 1.6 million and most of it is Outback nothingness. North Carolina has two markets that could support one in Raleigh and Charlotte, meanwhile, Ohio has Cleveland and Cincinnati on opposite ends of the state with another metro of over 2 million in the middle.

FWIW, I voted for Raleigh.
The point of Ohio having 11.5 million people was brought up. IKEA needs 2M people within a 40-60 radius. 2 goes into 11.5 five times. Was meant to be taken as more of a sarcastic statement.

A state's population does not decide whether or not it can support a second IKEA. Georgia has 10M and one IKEA. Miami is just building their first despite the Sunrise store being only 31 miles away.

No one is saying Cleveland couldn't support an IKEA. But the chances of a second Ohio store opening anywhere in the state is very unlikely in the near future.

South Africa's criteria for a store and the United States criteria for a store are not the same.

North Carolina, give or take has 3 metros that could "support" an IKEA. Charlotte, Raleigh and Greensboro (hence Greensboro being on the poll.)

Charlotte and Raleigh are on opposite sides of the state with a metro of 1.6 million in the middle.

People in Greensboro want an IKEA. People in Raleigh want an IKEA. Which will get one first? Almost 100% sure Raleigh.

No Ohio cities were on the poll, so I'm not sure why it's being discussed.
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Old 03-01-2013, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Austin
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I say Indianapolis could support an Ikea, there metro is on par with other cities that have Ikea like Austin, Charlotte, & Salt Lake City.
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Old 03-01-2013, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Mahoning Valley, Ohio
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You are and your debating on rather or not this or that, this will stop now. Cincinnati has one and Cleveland doesnt Ikea choosed Cincy for many reasons.
"This will stop now." What will stop? Nothing even started.

If anyone is debating it would be you. All my posts were just reality, if you can't handle that then go somewhere else. I know Ikea picked Cincinnati, I think I have made that point very clear. I said Cleveland's market could easily support one. I have posted clear points and you want to say I am trying to debate? Really? Go back and read your posts and read mine and tell me how I am debating? I was just sticking to the topic of Ikea. I even said that Cincinnati is a perfect market for Ikea, but now you're just trying to make a point that isn't even there. Did I mention that I said Cincinnati's West Chester Ikea is a good market to be in? Didn't know if I would have to continue to repeat myself.
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Old 03-01-2013, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Mahoning Valley, Ohio
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The point of Ohio having 11.5 million people was brought up. IKEA needs 2M people within a 40-60 radius. 2 goes into 11.5 five times. Was meant to be taken as more of a sarcastic statement.

A state's population does not decide whether or not it can support a second IKEA. Georgia has 10M and one IKEA. Miami is just building their first despite the Sunrise store being only 31 miles away.

No one is saying Cleveland couldn't support an IKEA. But the chances of a second Ohio store opening anywhere in the state is very unlikely in the near future.

South Africa's criteria for a store and the United States criteria for a store are not the same.

North Carolina, give or take has 3 metros that could "support" an IKEA. Charlotte, Raleigh and Greensboro (hence Greensboro being on the poll.)

Charlotte and Raleigh are on opposite sides of the state with a metro of 1.6 million in the middle.

People in Greensboro want an IKEA. People in Raleigh want an IKEA. Which will get one first? Almost 100% sure Raleigh.

No Ohio cities were on the poll, so I'm not sure why it's being discussed.
Do you know Ikea's international policies work? I didn't know Ikea reached the South African market, I know they have entered Australia's. If Ohio isn't likely to get an Ikea in the near future, there certainly is no market in Raleigh and especially Greensboro. If that's the case bring one to Columbus and build one in Akron which is equivalent to Greensboro. So if North Carolina has "three metros that can support" an Ikea, Ohio has 3 with over 2 million that can.

No cities from Ohio were in the poll, but one poster mentioned Cleveland, and you made it seem like saying Cleveland was like saying Bucharest was getting Ikea. I have even stated out of the cities in the poll that Raleigh seems like the most practical choice because of where Ikea is based around the other cities and the other poll cities being smaller markets. I am not the biggest fan of Ikea anyway, but they do have some good stuff.
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Old 03-01-2013, 07:29 PM
 
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Houston,Los Angeles,Denver, oooooooops they already have one lol lol lol
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Old 03-01-2013, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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If Ohio isn't likely to get an Ikea in the near future, there certainly is no market in Raleigh and especially Greensboro. If that's the case bring one to Columbus and build one in Akron which is equivalent to Greensboro. So if North Carolina has "three metros that can support" an Ikea, Ohio has 3 with over 2 million that can.
First of all, you are comparing an entire state to metro areas.

Second, Arkon and Greensboro are in no way on the same level.

My statement about Greensboro was in relevance to Indianapolis. If Indianapolis can support an IKEA, Greensboro can as well.


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No cities from Ohio were in the poll, but one poster mentioned Cleveland, and you made it seem like saying Cleveland was like saying Bucharest was getting Ikea. I have even stated out of the cities in the poll that Raleigh seems like the most practical choice because of where Ikea is based around the other cities and the other poll cities being smaller markets. I am not the biggest fan of Ikea anyway, but they do have some good stuff.
Assuming I know what Bucharest is still would not have anything to do with what the topic of the thread is about. If you aren't familiar with the rules, you're suppose to stay on topic.

If you're in favor of Raleigh, why are you getting butthurt over things being said about Cleveland?
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Old 03-01-2013, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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Why those metros only? You're missing at least New Orleans, St. Louis, Cleveland, and Kansas City,
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