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I'm most familiar with outlying areas of D.C. and Baltimore which have many brick colonial single family homes but also have whole neighborhoods of semi-detached houses, highrise apartmet buildings, whole blocks of attached garden style apartments and blocks of new urban town houses. I was just wondering of the most urban cities in the US what does the housing stock look like and what would be considered the most urban and most suburban. As and example would the outlying areas of D.C. and Baltimore be as urban as the core neigborhoods of Seattle and Portland.
What do you mean by outlying areas? Many of what I would consider the outlying areas of DC don't seem very urban to me. Certainly not in comparison to the most urban areas of Portland and Seattle.
What I was asking was what cities were most urban in the outlying areas of the city limits, primarily the built urban form.
I figured that was what you meant. Many people don't understand the concept. That's why you will see people talk about population density through this thread. Most people don't understand urban design which is why you will see a lot about population density in this thread with no mention of urban design or building street relationship.
I figured that was what you meant. Many people don't understand the concept. That's why you will see people talk about population density through this thread. Most people don't understand urban design which is why you will see a lot about population density in this thread with no mention of urban design or building street relationship.
I understand your take on "urban design" just fine. I think it's mostly a crock, that's all. Always have. Narrow streets and colonial architecture don't make up for low population densities.
I'll post this again:
Los Angeles Satellite Cities
30 cities
225 non-contigous sq miles
Population: 2,568,481
11,640 ppsm
Not one section of the city of Los Angeles is included in those totals either. It deserves a mention in this thread.
I understand your take on "urban design" just fine. I think it's mostly a crock, that's all. Always have. Narrow streets and colonial architecture don't make up for low population densities.
I'll post this again:
Los Angeles Satellite Cities
30 cities
225 non-contigous sq miles
Population: 2,568,481
11,640 ppsm
Not one section of the city of Los Angeles is included in those totals either. It deserves a mention in this thread.
Wow, that add up to the city Chicago, 227 sq miles and 2.7 million.
It would be interesting to find out some of the densest in the country. I know that Cambridge and Somerville in Boston are in the 16,000-18,000 per sq mi range as are the likes of Cicero and Berwyn in Chicago. I know Jersey City is around the same, but places like Hoboken are closer to 40,000 per sq mile.
I don't think it's fair to call Cambridge and Somerville "suburbs"(or even Hoboken/JC). These are really parts of Boston in just about every sense except name.
It would be interesting to find out some of the densest in the country. I know that Cambridge and Somerville in Boston are in the 16,000-18,000 per sq mi range as are the likes of Cicero and Berwyn in Chicago. I know Jersey City is around the same, but places like Hoboken are closer to 40,000 per sq mile.
Yeah there are few scattered around. LA has quite a few. There are few around Philly that are in the 15-20 range. Some basically look like extensions of West Philly even to just walking across the street and fining more and more row homes etc.
Camden NJ and Chester Pa once had densities at this levelbut today are devasted and ghetto
Think some parts of DC would qualify too
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