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I agree that St. Louis is one of the most disliked cities on here. On paper, the city looks horrible. For those who go there looking for the negative and they know where to look, they usually find it. There is no love in the St. Louis forum. Very few posts. from the few that are there, posts are from people who live in the suburbs or rural Missouri who have been programmed to not like the city.
I agree that St. Louis is one of the most disliked cities on here. On paper, the city looks horrible. For those who go there looking for the negative and they know where to look, they usually find it. There is no love in the St. Louis forum. Very few posts. from the few that are there, posts are from people who live in the suburbs or rural Missouri who have been programmed to not like the city.
St. Louis seems like such an underrated city. I feel like St. Louis and Cleveland tend to get a bad reputation that is not always deserved. You are right, if you are looking for the negative, you can find it, but there is also so much to be positive about these cities. For what they have to offer, especially urban wise, they tend to get beaten down.
My goal is to do a western road trip and I want to make it a point to explore as much of St. Louis as I can. Lots of great looking neighborhoods.
People still voting with their feet in St Louis. I don’t think you can call it underrated when it’s actively shrinking year by year.
“Of the 10 largest cities on the Missouri side of the Mississippi River, St. Louis saw the largest drop, declining 4.97% to 286,578 residents.
Five others also saw declines, including Florissant — the largest city in St. Louis County — Chesterfield, Wildwood, University City and Ballwin.
Significant population declines were also seen in the Metro East, including in East St. Louis, Belleville and Fairview Heights. Of the 10 largest Metro East cities, only Glen Carbon didn’t see any population loss.”
Hmm, I have never met anyone from Seattle in MA, I don't think I've ever even seen a Washington plate in MA. So it might be a one-way migration. I have in MD. But pretty sure its one way Boston to Seattle, much less Seattle to Boston. What makes sense
its more affordable in Seattle, faster-growing city, with a more temperate climate. And higher wages.
Boston's pretty provincial for a major city right? Like Pittsburgh, the natives just don't leave so it can feel insular.
A few too manyeattle posters are just unbelievably negative- I'm not surprised the negative commentary extends to Seattle itself. Idk if its the gloom or what.
I dont think-or at least I hope its not- indicative of most of Seattle though. I feel it could be an interesting place. I do hope to visit.
this came up on a Boston site I frequent today
The city that hates the Red Sox
By adamg - 5/19/23 - 9:12 am
No, not New York. Seattle. Maura McGurk plumbs the depths of Marinerville's hatred for the Sox and, sometimes, all of New England:
One of Matt’s friends didn’t wish to be identified but said that the “transitive properties” of all of New England were to blame for the way Seattle feels about the Sox and their fans. Matt explained that “snotty” New England things like Harvard and the Hamptons were problematic for him.
I’ve been surprised many times at the level of vitriol that I’ve encountered as a Red Sox fan here. I haven’t seen anything like this outside of New York City, pre-2004, but that hatred always felt understandable, born of a direct rivalry and constant contact.
All of my evidence is anecdotal: simply that there have been a number of times that I’ve been stopped while wearing a Sox cap or shirt and quietly going about my business. I’ve been hissed at, heckled, and had comments tossed in my direction (sort of out loud, but not really out loud). I started work for a new client and went into their office, and not one but two people told me immediately upon meeting me that they hated the Red Sox. Just like that. They weren’t even standing next to each other; they both volunteered that independently to the new person on their first day. I’ve been taken aback and also genuinely curious about this for years now.
Other Sox fans in Seattle have shared stories with me. One fan was sitting behind the Mariners dugout in the seats that her company offers to her every year when the Sox come to town. She was wearing Sox gear and a Mariners fan approached and told her that she “had no right to be in those seats.” Thinking he was kidding, she returned some light-hearted banter – but he wasn’t joking.
Why is this happening here in Seattle? Seattle may be known for what’s called the Seattle Freeze (whether you believe in it or not) or bouts of Seasonal Affective Disorder due to the extra-long nights during the wintertime, but not outright anger and confrontation.
Maybe its a fundamental clash in the city's personalities?
David, a Seattle native and fan since the Seattle Mariners franchise was born in 1977, said: “The [Sox] fanbase is collectively arrogant and condescending,” and there was strong agreement on that point. I received a text that used almost those exact words, and kept hearing similar feelings time after time.
Here’s David again: “When you have one narrative to get close or to never win, you feel bad for the fanbase. Generations go by. But [once they win] the narrative goes away immediately. The fanbase now expects to win.”
Bee Everfolly of Lookout Landing pointed out that many Bostonians seem “proud of being opinionated/obnoxious.
Steven, a Seattle native and University of Washington alum was most forthright: “Because they suck. All of them. All of New England.”
Seattleites don't care about much outside of tech and Seattle. Odd article. Their hated sports rivals are the 49ers and the Yankees.
Boston's pretty provincial for a major city right? Like Pittsburgh, the natives just don't leave so it can feel insular.
There is a certain provincialism to New England generally, but honestly that's part of its charm in my experience.
But I think every region has some degree of provincialism, even super-transient places like DC or NYC, which are both chock full of residents who are insufferably self-absorbed about where they live.
Also, there's so many misconceptions about Pittsburgh and other "Rust Belt" cities. The natives of these cities are actually MUCH more likely to have left than natives of most other cities in the US (at least, formerly when their economies were much less stable and uncertain). They're only more parochial by nature of not attracting as many outsiders.
I'm not aware of a Red Sox backlash in Seattle either. Maybe this is more about the writer.
When the Sonics were around I think they hated the Blazers and likely the Lakers. This isn't meant to be an insult, but I don't think they care much about Boston and vice versa.
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Originally Posted by Duderino
There is a certain provincialism to New England generally, but honestly that's part of its charm in my experience.
But I think every region has some degree of provincialism, even super-transient places like DC or NYC, which are both chock full of residents who are insufferably self-absorbed about where they live.
Also, there's so many misconceptions about Pittsburgh and other "Rust Belt" cities. The natives of these cities are actually MUCH more likely to have left than natives of most other cities in the US (at least, formerly when their economies were much less stable and uncertain). They're only more parochial by nature of not attracting as many outsiders.
Agreed. Love it. Boston has a character that NYC, Chicago and DC don't have because it's citizens tend to stay. Very provincial and insular.
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