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Do you realize how puny that is? At best, that's an increase of 2,000 residents per year -- IF every new apartment had two people living in it! Meh ...
Little ol' Savannah, GA has 1,600 units under construction in the city RIGHT NOW. Just pointing out that "slated" don't mean a thang in the grand scheme.
Downtown Houston is also 1 square mile at most. Savannah is like 100+ square miles. Big Difference. 2k units being built in a neighborhood at one time is actually a lot.
When I look at a Downtown like Philadelphia's, which is the perfect example of a downtown that is not New York but very successful, one thing to keep in mind is that it has an excellent balance of residential units and office space. Something not many cities have, they either have one or the other. Like for example, the downtowns of Austin and Miami are increasingly residential. Borderline on being a massive "gated community" and yeah owning a condo in a tower will give you the same privileges as living in a gated community without the gates. This is later exemplified by the lack of pedestrian pulse in Downtown Miami, especially in comparison to a island suburb like Miami Beach. I'm a larger advocate of mid-rise density in downtowns with street level retail. They have a larger sense of a "neighborhood" in place. Then there are the office dominated downtowns like Houston's with a low residential population, basically serve as a function of "office park". Currently it's downtown only has 2,900 residential units with 2,300 more to be completed by 2016. It's not very much to like a Philadelphia or Boston that are just way ahead of the game but it's a lot more compared to even 2010.
As for multifamily construction for the entire metropolitan areas according to the number of permits that filed for construction, present day, you can get them for the basis of 2-4 families or 5+.
Single family (1 family homes):
Atlanta: 9,006
Dallas: 14,840
Houston: 24,897
Phoenix: 11,931
Considering how high the vacancy was in Dallas during the recession because of an overbuilt supply of housing of all types, that stock of residentials must be either sold or leased out now for them to have a massive amount of units under construction now. In other words, it's probably filling in the fastest of the four given the numbers.
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Do you realize how puny that is? At best, that's an increase of 2,000 residents per year -- IF every new apartment had two people living in it! Meh ...
Little ol' Savannah, GA has 1,600 units under construction in the city RIGHT NOW. Just pointing out that "slated" don't mean a thang in the grand scheme.
Yes that 2000 units in a area of dt which is only 1 mile and some change.. the total number of units proposed are u/c is a round 18000 with 10000 of those within the loop this year alone..
Second houston is currently a realtor market as supply can not keep up with demand..other words they can not build fast enough to keep up.
Hines has stated they are only starting to gear up and over the next few years are going to bet big on houston residental market according today chroncle article.
A group of chicargo deveoper confrimed they have their eyes on a number of spots dt for highrasies and that they see houston development alot like chicargo was 20 years and want to get in on it now before land becomes too expenstive
I agree, and eventhough Houston is having a massive construction boom, how much of that is housing? How much of that is pedestrian friendly? Not to say that Houston isn't making strides in urbanity because it is but almost all of its housing is auto centric, limiting the ability to densify the city core that would create a need for future rail lines.
Almost all wrong.. thr majority is in and around the core neighbors.. uptown..eado ..montrose ..heights...
midtown..thirdward..
The overwhelming majority along the rail lines..almost everything you said is wrong
Almost all wrong.. thr majority is in and around the core neighbors.. uptown..eado ..montrose ..heights...
midtown..thirdward..
The overwhelming majority along the rail lines..almost everything you said is wrong
Everything going up in Houston is auto centric for the most part, that's not a lie, the point is the auto dependency of Houston will prevent future density, their wouldn't be any initiative for residents to use rail.
Everything going up in Houston is auto centric for the most part, that's not a lie, the point is the auto dependency of Houston will prevent future density, their wouldn't be any initiative for residents to use rail.
Yes it's a lie. The sovereign is not auto centric. Sky house is not auto centric. The downtown developments are not auto centric, 2929 Weslyan is not auto centric, regent square is not auto centric, the Southmore is not auto centric, I can keep going on. Some are autocentric and some aren't. That's a far cry from everything.
Yes it's a lie. The sovereign is not auto centric. Sky house is not auto centric. The downtown developments are not auto centric, 2929 Weslyan is not auto centric, regent square is not auto centric, the Southmore is not auto centric, I can keep going on. Some are autocentric and some aren't. That's a far cry from everything.
Do these new developments come with a brand New shiny parking garage? Thought so, come back to me when you find a new Houston development with no parking.
I think it is a pretty interesting discussion, whatever the intentions are.
Atlanta seems like it has the core with the most potential to be pretty urban, while I think Dallas and Houston can have less-urban-but-larger mid-density cores. Atlanta certainly has a huge head-start with the MARTA, plus having smaller city limits helps its chances of approaching 10k ppsm. But none of these cities will get the 10k ppsm anytime in our lifetimes - especially with the vast city limits of Dallas, Phoenix and Houston.
EDIT: Didn't realize it was just the core and not the entire city limits. I think Atlanta has the best core but Dallas and Houston both are going to be building fairly urban neighborhoods around their DT cores vs. Atlanta which has Downtown, Midtown surrounded mostly by very low density SFH neighborhoods.
It's hard to take a thread or post seriously from a known Houston basher. But no matter. When it comes to Houston and Dallas, I consider inner loop Houston as the city and inner loop 12 Dallas as the city in Dallas. Anything outside of that is suburb IMO. Both are taking sort of different approaches inside their respective cities. Most of Dallas new development is , townhouses, midrises, and high rises. Houston has a mixture of dense SFH, townhouses, midrises and high rises. Because of their city limits, neither will reach 10,000 anytime soon. In Houston, the sfh are denser with little to no yards in the front or back. The SFH ranch style home with even a respectable yard is not being built outside the core any longer. Any available lot is being developed as an apartment, townhouses, or mid rise apartment. Some even high rise.
Do these new developments come with a brand New shiny parking garage? Thought so, come back to me when you find a new Houston development with no parking.
So what if it comes with a parking garage. There is a new development in the middle of downtown DC close to three metro stops about to open that has a parking garage and nobody would call that development auto centric. Most if Dallas development has parking garages yet do no want to point that out because it didn't fit your agenda.
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