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Old 12-27-2013, 10:32 AM
 
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Using current CSA growth data (if someone wants to add in a few cities that only have an MSA feel welcome!) I found the fastest growing by numerical gains and projected to 2050:

Fastest Growing (gains per year):
1) Los Angeles: +180,996
2) New York: +142,718
3) Washington, DC: +139, 813
4) Dallas: +138,964
5) Houston: +128,558
6) San Francisco: +108,636
7) Miami: +104,334
8) Atlanta: +91,000
9) Seattle: +62,283
10) Denver: +61,672
11) Orlando: +51,242
12) Boston: +48,998
13) Raleigh: +43,040
14) Charlotte: +39,472
15) Salt Lake City: +39,289
16) Minneapolis: +37,525
17) Portland: +35,758
18) Philadelphia: +30,811
19) Chicago: +29,487
20) Nashville: +28,401

These top 20 cities in 2050 (CSAs):
Los Angeles: 25,116,846
New York: 28,785364
Washington, DC: 14,644,481
Dallas: 12,376,043
Houston: 11,256,862
San Francisco: 12,499,116
Miami: 10,340,126
Atlanta: 9,550,276
Seattle: 6,766,067
Denver: 5,557,754
Orlando: 4,867,780
Boston: 9,853,276
Raleigh: 3,634,309
Charlotte: 3,954,555
Salt Lake City: 3,843,256
Minneapolis: 5,185,928
Portland: 4,351,728
Philadelphia: 8,300,227
Chicago: 11,020,389
Nashville: 2,924,454

Take these projections with a grain of salt. Obviously there is no telling what could happen. (For ex, a sudden contraction in federal gov spending could annihilate DC's growth). A few things that surprised me were the strength of CA's cities, comparable with Texas, despite all the conservative rhetoric to the contrary. Another thing I noticed was Chicago getting pummeled and crashing 4 places down in the US. It will be fun to watch this play out!
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Old 12-27-2013, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Originally Posted by Folks3000 View Post
Using current CSA growth data (if someone wants to add in a few cities that only have an MSA feel welcome!) I found the fastest growing by numerical gains and projected to 2050:

Fastest Growing (gains per year):
1) Los Angeles: +180,996
2) New York: +142,718
3) Washington, DC: +139, 813
4) Dallas: +138,964
5) Houston: +128,558
6) San Francisco: +108,636
7) Miami: +104,334
8) Atlanta: +91,000
9) Seattle: +62,283
10) Denver: +61,672
11) Orlando: +51,242
12) Boston: +48,998
13) Raleigh: +43,040
14) Charlotte: +39,472
15) Salt Lake City: +39,289
16) Minneapolis: +37,525
17) Portland: +35,758
18) Philadelphia: +30,811
19) Chicago: +29,487
20) Nashville: +28,401

These top 20 cities in 2050 (CSAs):
Los Angeles: 25,116,846
New York: 28,785364
Washington, DC: 14,644,481
Dallas: 12,376,043
Houston: 11,256,862
San Francisco: 12,499,116
Miami: 10,340,126
Atlanta: 9,550,276
Seattle: 6,766,067
Denver: 5,557,754
Orlando: 4,867,780
Boston: 9,853,276
Raleigh: 3,634,309
Charlotte: 3,954,555
Salt Lake City: 3,843,256
Minneapolis: 5,185,928
Portland: 4,351,728
Philadelphia: 8,300,227
Chicago: 11,020,389
Nashville: 2,924,454

Take these projections with a grain of salt. Obviously there is no telling what could happen. (For ex, a sudden contraction in federal gov spending could annihilate DC's growth). A few things that surprised me were the strength of CA's cities, comparable with Texas, despite all the conservative rhetoric to the contrary. Another thing I noticed was Chicago getting pummeled and crashing 4 places down in the US. It will be fun to watch this play out!
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Old 12-27-2013, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Tempe, AZ
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Your missing San Antonio, Austin, Phoenix, San Diego, Tampa...
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Old 12-27-2013, 10:48 AM
 
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Wikipedia CSA page, just use math and Excel!
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Old 12-27-2013, 10:49 AM
 
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Your missing San Antonio, Austin, Phoenix, San Diego, Tampa...
As I said, CSA not MSA. That is why I said feel free to calculate MSAs and add them where they should go.
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Old 12-27-2013, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Wikipedia CSA page, just use math and Excel!
Oh sorry I see.
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Old 12-27-2013, 11:12 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Folks3000 View Post
Using current CSA growth data (if someone wants to add in a few cities that only have an MSA feel welcome!) I found the fastest growing by numerical gains and projected to 2050:

Fastest Growing (gains per year):
1) Los Angeles: +180,996
2) New York: +142,718
3) Washington, DC: +139, 813
4) Dallas: +138,964
5) Houston: +128,558
6) San Francisco: +108,636
7) Miami: +104,334
8) Atlanta: +91,000
9) Seattle: +62,283
10) Denver: +61,672
11) Orlando: +51,242
12) Boston: +48,998
13) Raleigh: +43,040
14) Charlotte: +39,472
15) Salt Lake City: +39,289
16) Minneapolis: +37,525
17) Portland: +35,758
18) Philadelphia: +30,811
19) Chicago: +29,487
20) Nashville: +28,401

These top 20 cities in 2050 (CSAs):
Los Angeles: 25,116,846
New York: 28,785364
Washington, DC: 14,644,481
Dallas: 12,376,043
Houston: 11,256,862
San Francisco: 12,499,116
Miami: 10,340,126
Atlanta: 9,550,276
Seattle: 6,766,067
Denver: 5,557,754
Orlando: 4,867,780
Boston: 9,853,276
Raleigh: 3,634,309
Charlotte: 3,954,555
Salt Lake City: 3,843,256
Minneapolis: 5,185,928
Portland: 4,351,728
Philadelphia: 8,300,227
Chicago: 11,020,389
Nashville: 2,924,454

Take these projections with a grain of salt. Obviously there is no telling what could happen. (For ex, a sudden contraction in federal gov spending could annihilate DC's growth). A few things that surprised me were the strength of CA's cities, comparable with Texas, despite all the conservative rhetoric to the contrary. Another thing I noticed was Chicago getting pummeled and crashing 4 places down in the US. It will be fun to watch this play out!
I know you said to take these with a grain of salt, and that's fine. But growth rates will obviously not stay the same for another 40 years. Boom cycles tend to last between 20-60 years. We're more than 40 years in for some of these. You will likely see major rate slow-downs with some of the most prolific growers of late.
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Old 12-27-2013, 11:18 AM
 
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I know you said to take these with a grain of salt, and that's fine. But growth rates will obviously not stay the same for another 40 years. Boom cycles tend to last between 20-60 years. We're more than 40 years in for some of these. You will likely see major rate slow-downs with some of the most prolific growers of late.
Yea of course. I just did it for fun. I also used numerical gains instead of percentage gains to increase accuracy.
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Old 12-27-2013, 11:41 AM
 
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Your missing San Antonio, Austin, Phoenix, San Diego, Tampa...
Here are the MSA growth per year for those:
Austin: +89,050
Phoenix: +68,324
San Antonio: +45,748
San Diego: +40,875
Tampa: +29,818

2050 MSA projection:
Phoenix: 6,925,827
Austin: 5,278,269
San Diego: 4,730,313
Tampa: 3,975,943
San Antonio: 3,972,408

(Again, take projections with a grain of salt, for example rising prices and COL in Texas cities or Phoenix may put the brakes on high growth over time)
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Old 12-27-2013, 12:40 PM
 
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I know you said to take these with a grain of salt, and that's fine. But growth rates will obviously not stay the same for another 40 years. Boom cycles tend to last between 20-60 years. We're more than 40 years in for some of these. You will likely see major rate slow-downs with some of the most prolific growers of late.
by "some of them" meaning the sun belt cities, a lot of the major american cities (New York, Chicago, Boston, Philly) certainly haven't been booming the last 50 years and have been just barely increasing their populations if not losing people to the suburbs or the south

New York 1950 - 7,891,957 weak gain of +444,740 people in 62 years for our biggest city
________2012 - 8,336,697

Chicago 1950 - 3,620,962 __________-906,106
________2012 - 2,714,856

Boston 1950 - 801,444____________ -164,965
_______2012 - 636,479

Phil 1950 - 2,071,605 _____________ -523,998
___2012 - 1,547,607

Detroit 1950 - 1,849,568 ___________-1,135,791
______2010 - 713,777
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Sun-belt cities

Houston 1950 - 596,163 ____________ +1,564,658
_______2012 - 2,160,821

LA 1950 - 1,970,358 _____________+1,887,441
_____2012 - 3,857,799

Pheonix 1950 - 106,818 _____________+1,381,932
_______2012 - 1,488,750

Dallas 1950 - 434,462 ______________ +806,700
______2012 - 1,241,162

Austin 1950 - 132,459______________ +710,133
______2012 - 842,592
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