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The relative founding date difference also does not account for settlement. Even though Philadelphia was founded 50-60 years later than Boston or NY, it's was settled pretty quickly, given the amount of "firsts" it had as a city (public library, public school, public hospital, etc.).
Boston Latin was founded in 1635, as far as I know that was the first public school in the nation. Maybe you have other info?
But DC doesn't even have skyscrapers and still has more urban canyons than Philly. A lot more! So i guess you can throw this out of the window as well with your whole rowhouse analogy because you still didn't tell me what all rowhouse neighborhood in Philly is more urban than Gtown or Old Town. Any city not named New York, Chicago and maybe SF should not brag about their skyscrapers because they basically are a small part of the urban fabric.
More urban than GT
Washington Sq West, Society Hill, Bella Vista
More urban than Old Town (to me Old town outside of a select few streets really isn't that urban at all, I like old town but for the most part Annapolis may more similarities than many urban nabes in terms of cohesiveness and consistency)
All above plus Queen Village, Pennsport, Gho, Fairmont, Fishtown, a large portion of South Philly in general and Lower North and parts of West Philly
Some might call Rittenhouse or Logan Sq a form of rowhouse neighborhoods as well - both (esp Rittenhouse) are more urban than either of the two DC nabe you mentioned. I would say U City as well though to me U City is not a rowhouse nabe
Working up the coast in terms of driving distance:
WASH-BALTIMORE: 40-50 minutes
BALTIMORE-PHL: 1.5 hours
PHL-NYC: 1.5-2 hours
NYC-BOS: 4 hours
They are all in the BOSH/WASH region. This also means that people from this area tend to stay in this area for convenience since each city can be at the minimum 1-2 hours away from each other (with the exception of NYC and BOS which is 4-5 hours.)
2. do NY and DC dominate?
NYC is the economic power center of the US and DC is the political center for the US (That doesn't exactly make them desirable in my eyes.)
3. is Baltimore's power in the region far diminished compared to the other 4?
BAL is a weird place. It was at one time in the 19th century one of the most populous cities in the US that gradually experienced white flight, crime, and the consequences of a globalized economy. In many ways it hasn't fully recovered over the years (see "The Wire") but there are some areas that are safe for younger people to live (see the college scene that is there). IMHO, compared to the other NE cities (and for it's size) it's really quite dangerous.
4. how do historic Boston and Philly compare? and if Boston is more NY and DC like as a magnet for the urban lifestyle, is Philly, a changing city, catching up with Boston in some important respects?
I think BOS is more highly regarded as a place to live, thrive, and do business but people forget at the end of the day that PHL is a very large city. PHL is getting better and cleaner for sure, whereas BOS has been a symbol of "yuppification" since the 1980s (see "Cheers".)
5. How does NYC relate to the other 4?
Obviously the biggest but also the most overwhelming slash expensive and the least manageable.
6. in particular, what is the NYC-DC relationship?
Lot's of traveling for individuals whose companies has offices in both cities. NYC is a media capital and DC is a political capital. You can do the math on that one.
7. can Balt/Wash be viewed as one metro area today (as connected as, say, D/FW, or SF/Oak/SJ?…..although certainly not to the degree of M/SP)
It already is.
8. of its 2 neighbors, does NYC lean more towards Boston or Philadelphia (I know in sports it's Boston, but i'm thinking across the board)
I would say the culture in NYC is that people who live there think NYC is the best city in the world and places like BOS and PHL (add LA as well) are inferior -- only nice places to visit.
9. I you were to choose one city not in the northeast corridor that would be the best fit to be in the northeast corridor due to the nature of that nature, its similarities to the 5, which city (or cities) would you choose.
PHL is pretty darn mid-atlantic so I'd go with that. BOS is very New Englandy so that's out.
10. If you had to rank the 5 cities, what order would you put them in? Is it save to say the biggest issue is who gets placed as 3rd and who gets 4th, Boston or Philly, with the other 3 slots being almost a given?
1. BOS
2. PHL
3. DC
4. BAL
5. NYC
...I really don't like NYC.
11, was the ascendency of NYC over its northeast rivals (Philly and Boston in particularly) accomplished mainly by the construction of the Erie Canal?
Errr that I don't know.
12. what will it be like for the 5 cities if everything were solidfly filled in from the VA suburbs of DC to the NH suburbs of Boston?
More urban than Old Town (to me Old town outside of a select few streets really isn't that urban at all, I like old town but for the most part Annapolis may more similarities than many urban nabes in terms of cohesiveness and consistency)
All above plus Queen Village, Pennsport, Gho, Fairmont, Fishtown, a large portion of South Philly in general and Lower North and parts of West Philly
Some might call Rittenhouse or Logan Sq a form of rowhouse neighborhoods as well - both (esp Rittenhouse) are more urban than either of the two DC nabe you mentioned. I would say U City as well though to me U City is not a rowhouse nabe
Go back and reread what I said in the beginning. Some of the neighborhoods you mention lack all types of urban amenities to be in the comparison. Some of them also have hi-rises. Some of them are complete dumps. Try harder.
Go back and reread what I said in the beginning. Some of the neighborhoods you mention lack all types of urban amenities to be in the comparison. Some of them also have hi-rises. Some of them are complete dumps. Try harder.
in relation here what are the urban amenities lacked? Am curious actually
GT - for one is good PT access though the buses are ok there - Even in Old Town the Metro is pretty far removed from the core - that area of Alexandria feels more like a Ballston in some ways
You have your definition so ok, not sure I agree but ok again
in relation here what are the urban amenities lacked? Am curious actually
GT - for one is good PT access though the buses are ok there - Even in Old Town the Metro is pretty far removed from the core - that area of Alexandria feels more like a Ballston in some ways
You have your definition so ok, not sure I agree but ok again
Shops, hotels, restaurants, retail, bars, clubs, museums, grocery stores, banks,etc..... tHE KEY WORD IS AMENITY. Redo your list now and see what you come up with. Use all rowhouse neighborhoods.
Shops, hotels, restaurants, retail, bars, clubs, museums, grocery stores, banks,etc..... tHE KEY WORD IS AMENITY. Redo your list now and see what you come up with. Use all rowhouse neighborhoods.
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1. what is the relationship between the five? Working up the coast in terms of driving distance: WASH-BALTIMORE: 40-50 minutes BALTIMORE-PHL: 1.5 hours PHL-NYC: 1.5-2 hours NYC-BOS: 4 hours
Yeah, people seem to forget sometimes that Boston is as far northeast of NYC as DC is south.
Washington, Baltimore, Philadelphia, and NYC are is a stretch of 250 miles. Then you need to go ANOTHER 250 miles to get to Boston. Therefore, I don't think Boston is as closely connected to these other cities as they are to each other. Or atleast Boston has more breathing room.
Boston's about as close distance-wise to Montreal as it is to Philadelphia.
Go back and reread what I said in the beginning. Some of the neighborhoods you mention lack all types of urban amenities to be in the comparison. Some of them also have hi-rises. Some of them are complete dumps. Try harder.
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Shops, hotels, restaurants, retail, bars, clubs, museums, grocery stores, banks,etc..... tHE KEY WORD IS AMENITY. Redo your list now and see what you come up with. Use all rowhouse neighborhoods.
It seems your not very familiar with Philadelphia... some are complete dumps?! No neighborhoods he mentioned are dumps by any stretch of the imagination. They aren't completely rowhome neighborhoods? Huh? Really? They lack urban amenities? Again... huh? How?
Look up these neighborhoods. You're making yourself look like a fool.
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