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Old 07-16-2014, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA
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Yes-I guess my point is that casinos will never be long term solutions to the larger problems in cities which multinational corporations and others have abandoned. Casinos might not make a place worse but that is pretty arguable longterm IMO-especially the ramifications felt when the gamblers and money dry up as we shall see now with AC.
Casinos have certainly transformed the Mississippi Gulf Coast and put it on the destination map. How do you explain that?
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Old 07-16-2014, 09:20 PM
 
Location: North by Northwest
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Casinos have certainly transformed the Mississippi Gulf Coast and put it on the destination map. How do you explain that?
Just like how Atlantic City was once on the destination map.

Give it time.
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Old 07-17-2014, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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ACY I feel will never gain the family/gambler/tourism status that LAS has. It will just never get there.

Plus, I'm pretty sure I read on the NJ forum that the state of art Revel hotel is now bankrupt.
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Old 07-17-2014, 02:14 PM
 
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Just got back from AC(only a casual gambler though) Had fun but everything past Atlantic Avenue is a straight up ghetto. The boardwalk is big but dirty. We stayed at Revel and although impressive it was deserted. The new casinos in Philly/Baltimore and the rest of the east coast really are killing AC.
Basically, as there are plans for casinos in Upstate NY and plenty of other casinos in the Northeast already. So, it is a matter of competition.
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Old 07-17-2014, 05:04 PM
 
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Well, the consensus is pretty clear then: Atlantic City is a filthy ghetto has-been resort that just HAPPENS to have a handful of casinos, while Las Vegas is a glittering entertainment and gambling destination for the the entire world.

Hate to tell the OP this, but like I said before, outside of Philly and NYC ... NOBODY -- and I do mean NOBODY -- gives AC a passing thought. It's a horrible place.
Do you feel better now?
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Old 07-17-2014, 06:02 PM
 
Location: North by Northwest
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Do you feel better now?
I have the feeling he's going to keep on refuting claims that no one's actually making. Does that even qualify as a strawman?
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Old 07-18-2014, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Do you feel better now?
I think the poo pooing on ACY is actually deserved. Minus the hotels and the beach, it's a dump. And the mayor is a f-ing idiot.

You want to compare it to Las Vegas? Just look at the airports. ACY is a 5th rate PHL with only Spirit serving more than a few destinations whereas LAS is one of the world's busiest. The world travels to Vegas. They don't travel to Atlantic City
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Old 07-18-2014, 11:29 AM
 
Location: North by Northwest
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I think the poo pooing on ACY is actually deserved. Minus the hotels and the beach, it's a dump. And the mayor is a f-ing idiot.

You want to compare it to Las Vegas? Just look at the airports. ACY is a 5th rate PHL with only Spirit serving more than a few destinations whereas LAS is one of the world's busiest. The world travels to Vegas. They don't travel to Atlantic City
But that's just the thing--no one was saying AC is on par with Vegas. Even the OP recognized that.
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Old 07-18-2014, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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But that's just the thing--no one was saying AC is on par with Vegas. Even the OP recognized that.
I think the issue came in when someone insinuated that AC is an international destination (like Vegas). Outside of some stragglers, it's purely regional.
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Old 07-18-2014, 01:00 PM
 
Location: North by Northwest
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I think the issue came in when someone insinuated that AC is an international destination (like Vegas). Outside of some stragglers, it's purely regional.
It's definitely not an international destination, though I'd say it's primarily regional rather than purely regional. The airport, while small in the grand scheme of things, gets a lot more traffic than a metro area of ~250,000 otherwise would.
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