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Neither of these. One could argue that maybe LA, Dallas, Atlanta, or Miami might become a competitor to NYC one day as these have the fastest growing metro areas (well except maybe LA, people are fleeing California in massive droves like the plague, can't say I blame them). However I don't think they'll ever get to NYC level, I don't think any city will to be honest.
People are also still spilling into LA and San Diego at a fast rate though.
San Francisco claims to be 2nd to none, the NYC of the west. However Philly has been known as the 6th borough. Which city is really in line to be the 2nd NYC?
Yeah maybe on city data SF is claimed to be the NYC of the west. However, get off these boards and mention this to normal people and they will think you are mildly retarded.
Regarding all cities on the west coast, they are nothing like NYC. Philly is not a good comparison to NYC either. Most would go with DC or BOS.
While all three cities have their uniqueness, there's no question that New York City's outer boroughs have more in common with Philadelphia than it does with San Francisco. Manhattan only represents a small percentage of the total population of the city. Even with that being said, I think Center City comes the closest in feel to Manhattan especially at the street level when compared to downtown San Francisco. Philly also seems to give off more of a stand-alone "big city vibe" that you see with cities like NYC and Chicago. San Francisco while large, feels more like a complementary city along with other nearby cities like San Jose and Oakland.
Yeah maybe on city data SF is claimed to be the NYC of the west. However, get off these boards and mention this to normal people and they will think you are mildly retarded.
Regarding all cities on the west coast, they are nothing like NYC. Philly is not a good comparison to NYC either. Most would go with DC or BOS.
LOLOLOL. DC and Boston are nothing like NYC. Philly is the closest in LOOK to NYC - which is why there are comparisons made.
Philly also seems to give off more of a stand-alone "big city vibe" that you see with cities like NYC and Chicago. San Francisco while large, feels more like a complementary city along with other nearby cities like San Jose and Oakland.
Oh s**t... them's fighting words. Prepare for a war now with SF posters posting several links about GDP, wealth, and how some San Francisco newspaper/magazine thinks SF is "Manhattanizing"
Prepare for a war now with SF posters posting several links about GDP, wealth, and how some San Francisco newspaper/magazine thinks SF is "Manhattanizing"
lol. As if those things really have anything to do with what cities have in common. Cities like London and Tokyo have similar GDP and wealth to NYC than any other US city but that doesn't automatically mean those cities have a lot in common in NYC.
Of course Philly and New York City have their differences but I don't see how a city that's about 3,000 miles away would have more in common with NYC than a city that is only 90 miles away. NYC and Philly have shared history that goes back long before the founding of San Francisco.
Realistically, Philly is more of a stand-alone city in it's metropolis. Just as Chicago is the undisputed king of Chicagoland and NYC is the undisputed king of the Tri-state area. When it comes to San Francisco and the Bay Area, not so much. San Francisco has to share the spotlight with Oakland and San Jose. I had to laugh when some of the posters said that San Francisco has more in common with NYC when it comes to power. Really? How can someone say that San Francisco has more similarities to NYC in power when SF can't even be a stand alone city in its own metropolis. At least be able to dominate your own metro area before you can say you have similarities with NYC when it comes to power and influence. People can say what you want about Philly but at least Philly dominates it's metro area and no other city is considered its equal.
How can someone say that San Francisco has more similarities to NYC in power when SF can't even be a stand alone city in its own metropolis.
I dont know but perhaps you should direct this query to New York Magazine since they made the following statement:
It’s hard to pinpoint the exact moment that
San Francisco morphed into bizarro-world
New York, when it went from being the
city’s dorky, behoodied West Coast cousin
to being, in many ways, more New York–ish
than New York itself—its wealth more
impressive, its infatuation with power and
status more blinding. Maybe it was this past
November, when New York elected a tax-the-rich progressive as mayor and, two
days later, Twitter, a company that had been
courted by San Francisco politicians with a
Bloombergian combination of municipal tax
breaks and mayoral flattery, went public at
around a $25 billion valuation. Maybe it was
when, after the crash, bonus-starved Wall
Street bankers started quitting their jobs
and heading to the Bay Area in droves to
join the start-up gold rush. Or maybe it was
when San Francisco became the new
American capital of real-estate kvetching,
thanks to supra-Manhattan rents and
gentrification at a pace that would make
Bushwick blush...
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At least be able to dominate your own metro area before you can say you have similarities with NYC when it comes to power and influence. People can say what you want about Philly but at least Philly dominates it's metro area
Actually Philadelphia does NOT dominate every aspect of life in its region like SF does.
Because King of Prussia OWNS the Delaware Valley when it comes to shopping, dear.
Also, Philadelphia rarely appears on rankings of global power perhaps because the region it "dominates"(snickers) isnt very important.
food for thought.
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