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In case you were unaware, sweetheart, your blatant bias towards the "Bay" (what an adorable name for a CSA) is pathetic. If you need to compare an entire CSA to one city just so your beloved can "win," by all means do so. The majority of us know how ridiculous and pathetic it is. Have fun arguing using your usual billionaire and wealth arguments while I move on out of the territory of the delusional. Hun.
Pumpkin, the difference in poverty levels alone shuts down any possibility of NYC even having a shot.
Also Sugar Plum, the median incomes for households and families are around 50% higher in the bay, which overall is **cheaper** than NYC as far as housing and cost of living so that's another black eye for NYC.
Then there are other things to consider like K-12 public education, universities, health care, amenities, recreation, etc.
So dumpling, while I actually adore NYC, it doesnt have a higher quality of life than the Bay Area.
The most interesting part is, even if we whittle down SF to the surrounding 300 sq miles which I think would be a fairer comparison, SF would still win because we just arent as ghetto or poor overall.
Pumpkin, the difference in poverty levels alone shuts down any possibility of NYC even having a shot.
Also Sugar Plum, the median incomes for households and families are around 50% higher in the bay, which overall is **cheaper** than NYC as far as housing and cost of living so that's another black eye for NYC.
Then there are other things to consider like K-12 public education, universities, health care, amenities, recreation, etc.
So dumpling, while I actually adore NYC, it doesnt have a higher quality of life than the Bay Area.
The most interesting part is, even if we whittle down SF to the surrounding 300 sq miles which I think would be a fairer comparison, SF would still win because we just arent as ghetto or poor overall.
Does that mean that NYC can still support people of lower income whereas SF seems to have made it pretty much untenable for them?
Finally NYC is winning! I know both cities are the "darling children" of City-Data but I really do think NYC is better. San Francisco, while nice, comes off as trying too hard to be NYC.
Well if you call squalid tenements 'tenable', then sure.
NYCHA houses aren't really tenements. Tenement houses, like those in the Lower East Side, are now often the domain of the younger and middle class who generally come from educated and middle to upper income backgrounds. Sort of ridiculous.
In case you were unaware, sweetheart, your blatant bias towards the "Bay" (what an adorable name for a CSA) is pathetic. If you need to compare an entire CSA to one city just so your beloved can "win," by all means do so. The majority of us know how ridiculous and pathetic it is. Have fun arguing using your usual billionaire and wealth arguments while I move on out of the territory of the delusional. Hun.
A flamboyant self-proclaimed Bay Area "billionaire" with a bizarre ego that's almost borderline militant....I wouldn't pay him any mind. The best remedy to his adorable little tirade is to ignore him like I have
A flamboyant self-proclaimed Bay Area "billionaire" with a bizarre ego that's almost borderline militant....I wouldn't pay him any mind. The best remedy to his adorable little tirade is to ignore him like I have
Correction: He's a millionaire, not a billionaire. Get your facts straight.
Of course NYC has more poverty...it has more people. And I never spoke of quality of life-just that NYC is a better city.
In addition, just because one is poor doesn't mean they have no ambition, there might be other circumstances. You can't generalize.
Those statistics are percentages, not raw numbers- and because which city is "better" is not pertinent to the premise of the thread, your comments mean little to the subject at hand; in other words, saying, "I like NYC more" does not aid in the discussion of quality of life. While you are certainly entitled to your opinion, favoritism of one city over another does not mean that that respective city can automatically garner approval in every field of criteria.
As for my perspective, I believe that the Bay Area has a higher QOL in general- there simply is a larger diversity of lifestyles involved in a comparison between a CSA and a city proper, ultimately favoring the area with the largest contrasts and juxtaposition of living. In the Bay Area, there is a choice of busy city, suburban, and rural communities- this isn't the case in New York.
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