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To live in? Sacramento, hands down. More moderate political climate, more diverse, more open to new comers.
I really do not think northerners are ever terribly welcome in the south - with the exception of certain areas of Florida. I have friends and relative who have moved to the Carolinas and Texas and Arkansas and most of their friends are other transplants from the north and Midwest. They have encountered "Yankee" comments, as mentioned by other posters.
As far as a visit, I think I'd enjoy Nashville, though.
I really do not think northerners are ever terribly welcome in the south - with the exception of certain areas of Florida. I have friends and relative who have moved to the Carolinas and Texas and Arkansas and most of their friends are other transplants from the north and Midwest. They have encountered "Yankee" comments, as mentioned by other posters.
As far as a visit, I think I'd enjoy Nashville, though.
That's certainly not the case in Nashville which just elected a woman from California to be its mayor. In fact, you have to go back to 1987 to the last time the people of Nashville voted for a Southerner to be their mayor. Since then, Nashville's mayors have been from New Jersey, Philadelphia, South Dakota, and now California. Likewise, before the current governor was elected you have to go back to 1991 for the last time Tennesseans voted for a Southerner to be their governor. Don Sundquist (R) was from Illinois, and Phil Bredesen (D) was from New Jersey. Clearly, people in Nashville and even the rest of Tennessee don't have a problem with non-Southerners or else they wouldn't keep voting them in office as their leaders.
That's certainly not the case in Nashville which just elected a woman from California to be its mayor. In fact, you have to go back to 1987 to the last time the people of Nashville voted for a Southerner to be their mayor. Since then, Nashville's mayors have been from New Jersey, Philadelphia, South Dakota, and now California. Likewise, before the current governor was elected you have to go back to 1991 for the last time Tennesseans voted for a Southerner to be their governor. Don Sundquist (R) was from Illinois, and Phil Bredesen (D) was from New Jersey. Clearly, people in Nashville and even the rest of Tennessee don't have a problem with non-Southerners or else they wouldn't keep voting them in office as their leaders.
Well, that is good to know. And I am glad that you don't personally have any problem with none Southerners. Clearly, the Nashville voters do not.
If you go up thread, you will see that I am not the only person from the north who has had issues - first and second hand, with southern hospitality. Or lack there of. One thing I have personally experienced was being called a "Yankee". (?) It was not in good fun. It was by a friend of a relative during a disagreement about something not remotely connected with geography or the Civil War.
We, in the north do not refer to southerners as "Rebels" or "confederates".
Interestingly, it's a place that I'd like to visit again. I visited in the early 90s and I had a good time.
The thing is, when visiting anywhere, people are nice - not just in the south. It's when you live there that you find out for sure how they feel about people from another part of the country.
I would like to revisit Sun Records and visit the Rockabilly Hall of Fame. I am a huge fan.
That's certainly not the case in Nashville which just elected a woman from California to be its mayor. In fact, you have to go back to 1987 to the last time the people of Nashville voted for a Southerner to be their mayor. Since then, Nashville's mayors have been from New Jersey, Philadelphia, South Dakota, and now California. Likewise, before the current governor was elected you have to go back to 1991 for the last time Tennesseans voted for a Southerner to be their governor. Don Sundquist (R) was from Illinois, and Phil Bredesen (D) was from New Jersey. Clearly, people in Nashville and even the rest of Tennessee don't have a problem with non-Southerners or else they wouldn't keep voting them in office as their leaders.
She was born in California but raised in Kansas. That is not the same as being from California.
Speaking of mayors, Sacramento's mayor for the last 2 terms is an African-American native Sacramentan, and he is married to an Asian(Korean) woman.
Sacramento is one of the top 3, most DIVERSE AND INTERGRATED Cities in the nation. Among people under 35 you really see the integration, very common.
Politically, Sacramento is one of the most even across the board, most liberal in the core/downtown/midtown - NorCal style liberal, surrounding the core, its less and less liberal, with half the suburban areas liberal to moderate and moderate to conservative. The outer suburban/almost rural type areas which tend to be very hilly to mountainous are the most conservative groups mostly republican.
The most liberal city in the Sacramento area would be Davis, just 12 miles west of downtown where the very large and very highly rated public University of California, Davis resides.
It will be interesting to see how Vanderbilt stacks up against UC Davis, I know UC Davis beats Vanderbilt in Veterinary Medicine as it is the best school in the world for that discipline. It likely beats it in several other disciplines.
She was born in California but raised in Kansas. That is not the same as being from California.
Either way she's not from the south, which is kinda the point.
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We, in the north do not refer to southerners as "Rebels" or "confederates".
The terms most often used by northerners to insult a southerner are 'redneck', 'hillbilly' or 'rube'. Don't think the nastiness doesn't go both ways when people want to be insulting.
Well, that is good to know. And I am glad that you don't personally have any problem with none Southerners. Clearly, the Nashville voters do not.
If you go up thread, you will see that I am not the only person from the north who has had issues - first and second hand, with southern hospitality. Or lack there of. One thing I have personally experienced was being called a "Yankee". (?) It was not in good fun. It was by a friend of a relative during a disagreement about something not remotely connected with geography or the Civil War.
We, in the north do not refer to southerners as "Rebels" or "confederates".
Interestingly, it's a place that I'd like to visit again. I visited in the early 90s and I had a good time.
The thing is, when visiting anywhere, people are nice - not just in the south. It's when you live there that you find out for sure how they feel about people from another part of the country.
I would like to revisit Sun Records and visit the Rockabilly Hall of Fame. I am a huge fan.
Wait, so you are basing a lot of this on a visit more than 20 years ago....?
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And I am glad that you don't personally have any problem with none Southerners. Clearly, the Nashville voters do not.
