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Old 12-01-2014, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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I rather have a small apartment in a very urban location, than have a big house in the suburbs. Depends on the individual.
Well the point of the article still holds. In IAC, Omaha, KC, etc you could easily get an extremely nice downtown apartment in a better location with more amenities than you could get in NYC, San Francisco, DC, etc for the same price.
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Old 12-01-2014, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Copenhagen/Boston
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In 2018 the minimum salary in San Francisco will be 15 US dollar. Next year it will be 11 dollar. If you work full time on an 11 dollar salary you make 1,760 dollar a month before taxes. If you make 15 US dollar an hour you make 2,400 a month before taxes. You are not able to raise a family in San Francisco if you are not living in subsidize housing. In fact you cannot even afford living ALONE in SF on a minimum wage if you don’t receive some kind of government grants. The terrible salaries and the lack of opportunities force people to live in subsided housing and receive welfare benefits. This is what “capitalism” has become in United States. Let the government (read: tax payers) pay for what corporations ought to pay to their employees. The truth is that American corporations are capitalisms worst enemy. They are suffering from kleptomania and have no respect for other people’s money. Instead they want government to pay what they will not pay to their employees. It ought not to be up to me to pay housing and food for private corporate employees. I’m so tired for the liberal-corporate alliance and their hatred for average tax-paying Americans.

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Old 12-01-2014, 01:39 PM
 
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Well the point of the article still holds. In IAC, Omaha, KC, etc you could easily get an extremely nice downtown apartment in a better location with more amenities than you could get in NYC, San Francisco, DC, etc for the same price.
NY, SF, DC are more expensive because it offers more amentities and jobs. Are you really saying Omaha, KC, etc offer more amentities than NY, SF and DC? You're hysterical.
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Old 12-01-2014, 01:47 PM
 
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I think he/she is talking in-home / condo / apartment amenities.
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Old 12-01-2014, 01:56 PM
 
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In Pittsburgh it will get you a east side deluxe apartment in the sky.
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Old 12-01-2014, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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NY, SF, DC are more expensive because it offers more amentities and jobs. Are you really saying Omaha, KC, etc offer more amentities than NY, SF and DC? You're hysterical.
Omaha and KC may not be the best examples (although neither are the Podunk towns you are implying) but cities like Chicago or Minneapolis offer pretty much everything the coastal cities do in terms of amenities but are much cheaper. The prices of the coastal cities are driven by geographical and development constraints as much as they are by demand (outside of Manhattan).
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Old 12-01-2014, 02:23 PM
 
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Omaha and KC may not be the best examples (although neither are the Podunk towns you are implying) but cities like Chicago or Minneapolis offer pretty much everything the coastal cities do in terms of amenities but are much cheaper. The prices of the coastal cities are driven by geographical and development constraints as much as they are by demand (outside of Manhattan).
How did I imply that they were Podunk towns? Just curious. So you're saying places like Omaha offer the same amentities like NYC? DC? SF? These places are not expensive because of geographical and development constraints and that's not why it has high demand. Jobs, amentities, being in the bosh-wash corrider, nightlife, Cosmo lifestyle and did I say jobs?
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Old 12-01-2014, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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The jobs part is where most of my disagreement comes. This idea that the Bos Wash corridor or the west coast is where you have to go for jobs is generally something that is believed by people who live in those areas and don't have a good grasp of what is happening in the rest of the country. Check out the unemployment rates for September:

Minneapolis 3.6%
Omaha 3.6%
Des Moines 4.1%
Columbus 4.3%
San Francisco 5.0%
Washington 5.0%
Seattle 5.1%
Boston 5.6%
Philadelphia 5.7%
Baltimore 5.8%
New York 5.8%
Kansas City 6.0%
Los Angeles 7.1%



Unemployment Rates for Metropolitan Areas
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Old 12-01-2014, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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NY, SF, DC are more expensive because it offers more amentities and jobs. Are you really saying Omaha, KC, etc offer more amentities than NY, SF and DC? You're hysterical.
What are you talking about of course that's not what I'm saying. I said you can get a better apartment closer to more amenities in those cities than in the big coastal cities. $1500 in San Francisco you're never going to find a one-bedroom close to anything. You'll wind up in Oakland or with five roommates. $1500 in Minneapolis you can get a skyway-connected one-bedroom downtown with a view in a highrise on the light rail line with a parking garage. For LESS than $1500 in Omaha you can get a luxury one-bedroom in or near the Old Market. For HALF that in Des Moines you can get a TWO-bedroom in Court District in a highrise with a view. No one is saying Omaha has more amenities than San Francisco, but the amenities it does have are great AND normal people can actually afford to live near them.
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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I was expecting the apartment in NYC to be slightly smaller. I'm pleasantly surprised.
with shared bathroom?! They picked one of the priciest neighborhoods in the city, though they found a rent stabilized unit, unsure of how easy it is to get. For some of the cities, rental prices vary a lot by neighborhood.
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