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And that's been my experience with MPS friends as well, the people are a bit more down to earth (unless you bring up the 2009 NFL season - as a New Orleanian we rub elbows over that a lot still). But after that, they are very warm people ... and calm.
Yeah Portlanders in general, I found when I lived there, are very snarky and negative. I've know some people from Minnesota and all of them have been pretty nice except for one who was kinda flaky.
Portlanders were dismissive, rude, arrogant, and nice-nasty. Nice-nasty is when you smile or say something to someone in a half-hearted way or pretend to enjoy someone's company, then talk about them behind their back. Minneapolis folk were kind, welcoming, and up for intellectual conversation, not artifical hipster grandstanding.
Those aren't the numbers I found. I posted numbers for the foreign-born population of Minneapolis and Portland from the census bureau.
I like how you conveniently leave St. Paul, which literally borders Minneapolis and is part of the central core, out of the mix. The latest census estimates has Minneapolis at 400,079 and Portland at 611,134. The foreign population for Minneapolis is 16.1% and Portland 14.7%. Add St. Paul to the mix and the number is even higher.
I like how you conveniently leave St. Paul, which literally borders Minneapolis and is part of the central core, out of the mix. The latest census estimates has Minneapolis at 400,079 and Portland at 611,134. The foreign population for Minneapolis is 16.1% and Portland 14.7%. Add St. Paul to the mix and the number is even higher.
Probably because the question was Portland vs Minneapolis
For that matter -- Vancouver, WA literally borders Portland. So you should probably go include those statistics too.
Usually when people say Minneapolis they are using it as short hand for the Twin Cities. St Paul is part of the urban core in a way that Vancouver, WA is not.
I like how you conveniently leave St. Paul, which literally borders Minneapolis and is part of the central core, out of the mix. The latest census estimates has Minneapolis at 400,079 and Portland at 611,134. The foreign population for Minneapolis is 16.1% and Portland 14.7%. Add St. Paul to the mix and the number is even higher.
I was not trying to be deceptive, or anything else sinister. You Minnesotans are sure a sensitive bunch, for supposedly being so "friendly" and "optimistic".
Here are the numbers for St. Paul, since you asked (All numbers from the CD main page, may be a little different that some other set of numbers, but the only place it's gathered into one.)
Population: 294,873 (2013)
Foreign-born population: 50,063 (17.2%)
Born in US: 244,810
US born population born in MN: 171,175 (69%)
Place of birth of non-US residents:
Laos (30%)
Mexico (15%)
Thailand (11%)
Vietnam (5%)
Other Eastern Africa (4%)
El Salvador (3%)
Ethiopia (3%)
Read more: https://www.city-data.com/housing/hou...#ixzz3ZxLkNWlH
For Minneapolis, 31% were born in the US but outside of Minnesota, 15.2% foreign born
For Portland, 44% were born in the US but outside of Oregon, 13.8% foreign born
Like most western cities, Portland is more of a transplant city compared to eastern and midwestern cities. And judging by the state-wide statistics, the same gap is there for the metros.
For Minneapolis, 31% were born in the US but outside of Minnesota, 15.2% foreign born
For Portland, 44% were born in the US but outside of Oregon, 13.8% foreign born
Like most western cities, Portland is more of a transplant city compared to eastern and midwestern cities. And judging by the state-wide statistics, the same gap is there for the metros.
EX-actly! In both states, the metro areas comprise a large percentage of the population.
Portland MSA: 2,348,247 (Some of this in in WA state)
Oregon population: 3.97 million
Over half the OR population is in the Portland MSA
1) Affordability and opportunity to make money: Minneapolis economy is stronger.
2) Parks, natural beauty, and ecological awareness: Minneapolis (largest park system in the U.S.)
[IMG]Downtown & Nicollet island by TCJazelle, on Flickr[/IMG]
[IMG]Extras album by TCJazelle, on Flickr[/IMG]
3) Climate: Toss up.Depends if you dislike a lot of rain or if you dislike cold winters
4) Hospitality/friendliness:Minneapolis hands down! This Man Handed out 520,000 Sandwiches on the Streets of Minneapolis Last Year[/b]https://youtu.be/D68lxY-8wPA
5) Public transit and safety net: Portland (although Minneapolis is getting really good).
6) Downtown area:Minneapolis
7) Nightlife and fun-ness: Minneapolis
[IMG]15462276560_eb4756723a_k-2 by TCJazelle, on Flickr[/IMG]
Overall Minneapolis. But both cities get a from me.
I was not trying to be deceptive, or anything else sinister. You Minnesotans are sure a sensitive bunch, for supposedly being so "friendly" and "optimistic".
And youre being judgemental. Congrats!
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from me.
