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That area is not what anyone would call sprawl, but it's hardly "very high density". It's mostly single family houses (some subdivided into apts) and small apt. buildings in the residential areas.
Like most of the core city of Denver for instance.
That area is not what anyone would call sprawl, but it's hardly "very high density". It's mostly single family houses (some subdivided into apts) and small apt. buildings in the residential areas.
Not sure about that; Portland, Minneapolis and Denver all seem rather similar in density outside their downtown, at least judging by streetview and density maps. From what I remember of Portland, outside downtown, it didn't seem that dense; much of the area was just single-family houses, many commerical streets weren't mostly attached. It didn't seem like typical suburbia, either.
Of the census tracts in between Minneapolis and St. Paul most are around 10,000 per square mile. There's a neighborhood to the southwest and east of downtown Minneapolis that's denser. Denser than typical suburbia, but some inner suburbs areas of denser cities are at that. It might have a bit more than Portland, it's not immediately obvious from skimming a map, you'd have to run through numbers to find how different they are. So I'd say they're roughly the same for practical purposes, and not a difference that'd be relevant to the average person.
Here's along the light rail connecting Minneapolis-St. Paul downtowns. Not exactly sprawling, but it's a bit of a stretch to call it high density:
Sure, you can cherry-pick and find areas like that (which, really, aren't even that low of density). You can also find areas like this in our "low density sprawl" between the downtowns:
No they are not, because then you'd be talking about an urban core as large as NYC. Minneapolis's urban core is not 12 miles wide.
No urban, dense, walkable core is 12 mile long in this country except NYC. It's a bunch of a single family homes between Downtown Minn. and Downtown St Paul. Unless there a streetwall of apartment midrises or rowhouses, it's not an urban core to me.
What are you talking about? I live in St. Paul off University and along the Green Line. The only single family structures along University Avenue have been converted into businesses and there are maybe a handful. All other residential buildings are multi-unit and are anywhere from two to six stories. If I were to walk across HWY 280, which is a block from my place, and into Minneapolis the same can be said about the residential along the MPLS stretch too. Let me guess, you think Minneapolis and St. Paul are separated by the Mississippi?
Portland outside of Downtown may not be super dense, but it is definitely walkable and many areas have easy access to pedestrian-oriented commercial corridors. There are miles and miles of commercial corridors like these outside of the Downtown area:
What are you talking about? I live in St. Paul off University and along the Green Line. The only single family structures along University Avenue have been converted into businesses and there are maybe a handful. All other residential buildings are multi-unit and are anywhere from two to six stories. If I were to walk across HWY 280, which is a block from my place, and into Minneapolis the same can be said about the residential along the MPLS stretch too. Let me guess, you think Minneapolis and St. Paul are separated by the Mississippi?
University Ave is only one road between St. Paul and Mpls, and a significant portion of that is the University of Minnesota. If you go 0.5 miles north of University Ave it's single family homes. if you go on the south side of 94 it is 90% single family homes.
University Ave is only one road between St. Paul and Mpls, and a significant portion of that is the University of Minnesota. If you go 0.5 miles north of University Ave it's single family homes. if you go on the south side of 94 it is 90% single family homes.
University Avenue is the only road between St. Paul and Minneapolis?
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