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My daughter lives in Minneapolis, and she tells me people really do hibernate in the winter. And it makes sense. Most places, if you go ice skating, cross-country skiing, etc once or twice, you've probably done more than most of your neighbors.
THIS has to be silliest comments I've read on this thread. I will play along though... how would your daughter know about what people do during the winter months if she doesn't go out? It's freakin cold mid-December to February. I and many friends are very active during those months, whether it skiing, cross-country skiing, going to bars, going to sporting events (Vikings, Wild, Timberwolves, Gopher (hockey and basketball), concerts, etc... Nice try though.
For the winter activity argument, nobody is saying winter is more active than summer, or super active outside in comparison to the rest of the year, just that it's far more active than just about any other cold-weather city in the country.
Let me add that there is nothing wrong with Pittsburgh (or Minneapolis), and both cities are actually very much equal in many regards, if not most importantly that both are severely underrated and under-appreciated, but some cities have their strengths that are somewhat undeniable. If city A is very strong in one regard, that does not necessarily make city B a slouch. I think people are getting confused about this.
Let me add that there is nothing wrong with Pittsburgh (or Minneapolis), and both cities are actually very much equal in many regards, if not most importantly that both are severely underrated and under-appreciated, but some cities have their strengths that are somewhat undeniable. If city A is very strong in one regard, that does not necessarily make city B a slouch. I think people are getting confused about this.
Yeah. I also think it's a CD thing where one has to "completely crush the other" or can do no wrong because that's their hometown/city they live in. Or people just get caught up in stats and use it as undeniable proof of how great a place is for everybody.
THIS has to be silliest comments I've read on this thread. I will play along though... how would your daughter know about what people do during the winter months if she doesn't go out? It's freakin cold mid-December to February. I and many friends are very active during those months, whether it skiing, cross-country skiing, going to bars, going to sporting events (Vikings, Wild, Timberwolves, Gopher (hockey and basketball), concerts, etc... Nice try though.
My daughter lives in Minneapolis, and she tells me people really do hibernate in the winter. And it makes sense. Most places, if you go ice skating, cross-country skiing, etc once or twice, you've probably done more than most of your neighbors.
Yup and don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise, its the truth...
People are by far indoors way more than they are compared to the warmer months... yes there is skiing which is actually really popular, people where i live will literally go multiple times a week... but that is about it... vs summer i can go outside tanning, going for walks, camping, at the beach, grilling and just going out more in general.
For the winter activity argument, nobody is saying winter is more active than summer, or super active outside in comparison to the rest of the year, just that it's far more active than just about any other cold-weather city in the country.
I don't think Minneapolis is any more or less active in winter than Milwaukee, Chicago and Detroit.
I don't think Minneapolis is any more or less active in winter than Milwaukee, Chicago and Detroit.
Well I do. Nobody in those cities skates outside, for instance, because it's not easily possible and not nearly as widespread and accessible in those places. Skiing is also not as embraced in those places -- cross-country or alpine. People in general are not as connected with outdoor activities and sports because snow and ice, while prevalent, is not guaranteed like it can be in the Twin Cities, so it's harder to organize and plan recreational activities around them. Having lived in Chicago and Cleveland, with relatives in Detroit and Madison, I can tell a major difference between those cities and the Twin Cities. It's significant enough in my eyes to make me yearn to be back in the Twin Cities to be able to participate in outdoor recreation in the winter time. Winter without recreation is a lot worse!
I don't think Minneapolis is any more or less active in winter than Milwaukee, Chicago and Detroit.
I would disagree. When it comes to Nordic skiing specifically, the Milwaukee metro area has 150.4 kilometers of ski trails (and that's being generous, as I included a large number of trails outside the metro). I could not get any data for Detroit, and the limited information that I got for Chicago listed only 26.5 kilometers of ski trails. However, Des Moines has 15 kilometers (also being generous), and Madison (being generous again) has 88.6 kilometers. Minneapolis-St. Paul, on the other hand, has 559.7 kilometers when being restrictive and only using the urban area, and has 776.5 kilometers when being generous, yet still only including the metro, unlike with the others.
That's quite the difference, and the MSP area wouldn't be able to keep those numbers if it didn't have a population to support it.
Recap:
Minneapolis - St. Paul: 776.5 kilometers (metro only)
Well I do. Nobody in those cities skates outside, for instance, because it's not easily possible and not nearly as widespread and accessible in those places. Skiing is also not as embraced in those places -- cross-country or alpine. People in general are not as connected with outdoor activities and sports because snow and ice, while prevalent, is not guaranteed like it can be in the Twin Cities, so it's harder to organize and plan recreational activities around them. Having lived in Chicago and Cleveland, with relatives in Detroit and Madison, I can tell a major difference between those cities and the Twin Cities. It's significant enough in my eyes to make me yearn to be back in the Twin Cities to be able to participate in outdoor recreation in the winter time. Winter without recreation is a lot worse!
I think you're right that in Chicago you have to try more to be active during the winter since there are so many more people and buildings and more density everywhere and less directly adjacent nature, but there are definitely options for skating and skiing and running and biking during the winter in Chicago. I even saw people ice skating on the beach last year! And the city does a great job keeping the running trails free during the winter, which is my favorite time of year for running.
I disagree about Madison, though. There are tons of options for winter recreation there, and people are very active there during the winter.
I any event, my vote was for Mpls, but I can see how someone would choose Pittsburgh.
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