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I think Atlanta is gonna end up somewhere between a mix of DC and LA when it's all said and done. Midtown is really starting to build a pedestrian culture and construction shows no signs of slowing even during COVID. List of urbanizing neighborhoods outside Downtown and Midtown. I'll also post some Midtown for posters who aren't familiar with Atlanta. Once SONO is filled in Atlanta will truly transcend. Won't ever be top 10 though and it isn't necessarily a bad thing as long as urban nodes exist.
These are some great projects. I follow Atlanta closely because of how well-done a lot of urban infill is there compared to its peers. I think Atlanta has a LONG way to go but it will start surpassing others soon on the urbanity scale.
My only gripe with these streetviews is - where are the people? Besides the last one, most of these are ghost towns. Hope the new developments improve this.
Maybe I'm a bit too much of a homer, and obviously the NOLA hype-person, but feel NOLA is pretty urban for its size; and maybe isn't top 5, but certainly tops in the south.
No question on NOLA's urbanity. Its core is high quality urbanism in a way that few other cities are. Extra points in my view, also, for being incredibly unique and interesting in its urban flair. That counts for a lot.
LOL spent plenty of time in both, especially Harm City.
No one goes to Baltimore to walk around, unless they're documenting the decay.
You can walk all over Seattle, from the baseball stadium out to Capitol Hill and up Queen Anne hill. In Philly, you have to stay around Center City.
Sorry the truth is so hard to take. But no one in their right mind thinks Baltimore is a walker's paradise.
One can cover a ton of ground in Baltimore on foot without seeing extensive decay. Downtown, Pigtown, Federal Hill, Inner Harbor/Harbor East, Mt. Vernon, Little Italy, Fells Point, Canton, Charles Village, Hampden, Midtown, Seton Hill, Bolton Hill, Reservoir Hill, Charles Village, etc. constitutes a contiguous, expansive, and very walkable area of Baltimore's urban core so I really have no idea what you're talking about.
Philadelphia has MUCH more to offer that is walkable beyond Center City. There's also University City, West Philly, Graduate Hospital, Northern Liberties, Fishtown, South Philly, Bella Vista, Chestnut Hill, Manayunk, etc.
One can cover a ton of ground in Baltimore on foot without seeing extensive decay. Downtown, Pigtown, Federal Hill, Inner Harbor/Harbor East, Mt. Vernon, Little Italy, Fells Point, Canton, Charles Village, Hampden, Midtown, Seton Hill, Bolton Hill, Reservoir Hill, Charles Village, etc. constitutes a contiguous, expansive, and very walkable area of Baltimore's urban core so I really have no idea what you're talking about.
Add to this list Patterson Park, Highlandtown, Morrell Park, Butchers Hill, Barclay, Waverly, Station Arts, Locust Point and others.
In Center City, sure. No one's refuted anything I've said re: DC and Boston being far more walkable than Philly outside of their core downtowns.
I mean way north, south and west. For example I walked north to Temple University Medical Center and back. There were barriers (a walled college, railroads) but it was otherwise a grid with good sidewalks and decent density though pock-marked in places.
PS, Seattle fares well vs. Philly in the 2019 ACS commute stats too. It's unfair to Philly since it's a larger area (it would beat us in a parallel comparison) but still, here goes:
--Philadelphia: 25.5% transit, 8.5% walk, 2.1% bike, 48.8% drive alone.
--Seattle: 25.1% transit, 10.7% walk, 3.7% bike, 44.5% drove alone.
These are some great projects. I follow Atlanta closely because of how well-done a lot of urban infill is there compared to its peers. I think Atlanta has a LONG way to go but it will start surpassing others soon on the urbanity scale.
My only gripe with these streetviews is - where are the people? Besides the last one, most of these are ghost towns. Hope the new developments improve this.
Atlanta's infrastructure deters pedestrian activity. Midtown's sidewalks are very narrow for its population and cars regularly speed through W. Peachtree and Spring because they were designed as feeders to get suburbanites in and out of Downtown quickly (before Midtown was a dense neighborhood). There are complete street projects planned to correct this. There are areas in Atlanta being built completely around pedestrians like these developments along the beltline.(Beltline@Edgewood 727 Ponce)
Atlanta's infrastructure deters pedestrian activity. Midtown's sidewalks are very narrow for its population and cars regularly speed through W. Peachtree and Spring because they were designed as feeders to get suburbanites in and out of Downtown quickly (before Midtown was a dense neighborhood). There are complete street projects planned to correct this. There are areas in Atlanta being built completely around pedestrians like these developments along the beltline.(Beltline@Edgewood 727 Ponce)
An Atlanta foumer brought Atlanta into a conversation where Atlanta doesn't belong per usual and/or as always. Moving on back to the topic.......
An Atlanta foumer brought Atlanta into a conversation where Atlanta doesn't belong per usual and/or as always. Moving on back to the topic.......
Good Lord...this thread is over five years old and Atlanta was first mentioned way back on the second page by a non-Atlantan that seems to no longer be a member here. Other cities like Minneapolis and Detroit, which also "don't belong," were mentioned when this thread was resurrected a few days ago but they obviously don't trigger you like Atlanta does.
Good Lord...this thread is over five years old and Atlanta was first mentioned way back on the second page by a non-Atlantan that seems to no longer be a member here. Other cities like Minneapolis and Detroit, which also "don't belong," were mentioned when this thread was resurrected a few days ago but they obviously don't trigger you like Atlanta does.
Yup... I've never hidden my bias. Atlanta isn't the gem people try to make it out to be in my opinion and its forumers are my least favorite as a collective on CD. Just like Atlanta being one of your darling cities, your bias is showing as well by trying to highlight little 4-5 block sections of street retail surrounded by single family homes scattered throughout the city that aren't even connected to each other, and require a car to get to for the most part. This isnt unique or special as basically every other major city has this especially in the older burbs. It's like giving a t-shirt credit for having sleeves...
And Minneapolis/Detroit were brought in by other forumers and not locals from what I can see.... you see the difference?
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