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^^True. But by Philly standards, not so dense - more leafy green.
CC still houses most of the absolute powerbrokers of the city who choose not to live and commute in from Bryn Mawr or Villanova.
Chestnut Hill is not particularly dense by Philly standards (comparable I'd say to the densest parts of the Main Line). However, I'd argue that it feels at least as if not more pedestrian friendly and walkable than some neighborhoods in the Northeast that objectively have much higher (20-30k per square mile) population densities.
Oh and to the OP, I think Oakland contains the most urban neighborhoods that I have personally been in outside of your top 5 (West Oakland and Chinatown)
Baltimore has plenty of business owned by immigrants. There are ethnic enclaves in Baltimore that DC lacks.
I'm talking about low income neighborhoods like East Baltimore etc. It's really the same issue in almost all black neighborhoods across America except those with foreign born residents.
I noticed Baltimore was mentioned which does not make sense to me, even though it has history I do not believe this city is anywhere near the caliber of the cities listed above from an urban standpoint.
I noticed Baltimore was mentioned which does not make sense to me, even though it has history I do not believe this city is anywhere near the caliber of the cities listed above from an urban standpoint.
I noticed Baltimore was mentioned which does not make sense to me, even though it has history I do not believe this city is anywhere near the caliber of the cities listed above from an urban standpoint.
Atlanta and Miami more urban than Baltimore? What parallel universe are you living in?
I'm talking about low income neighborhoods like East Baltimore etc. It's really the same issue in almost all black neighborhoods across America except those with foreign born residents.
Actually, blacks don't own most of the businesses in black, low income neighborhoods. They're almost always own and operated by immigrants. Even the businesses in the part of East Baltimore that youre referring to is run by immigrants. You have to look at what kind of businesses are in low income neighborhoods, then look at the people who are most likely to run that kind of establishment.
I noticed Baltimore was mentioned which does not make sense to me, even though it has history I do not believe this city is anywhere near the caliber of the cities listed above from an urban standpoint.
Saying that Baltimore isn't in the caliber of other cities isn't even an option. There are plenty of neighborhoods that compete with the top 5 urban cities without question.
I have been thinking about the gap between Tier 6 (average cities) and Tier 5 (honorable mentions). It has certainly occurred to me that a Tier 6 city might make it only part way to Tier 5. After fixing up downtown and adding a Yuppie neighborhood or two, it is easy to see the stalling of further urbanization/urbanity. This is an auto-centric era in an auto-centric country.
I have become a pessimist.
Conceivably, a city might create a "mildly urban" area, as Tempe was described in another thread. (Wikipedia described this as a "fairly dense, urbanized pattern in the northern part of the city"). Perhaps around an old downtown and those two yuppie neighborhood. And thereby achieve a sort of 6+ rating.
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