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I would agree, but this seems like an apples to oranges comparison. You are showing a wide street area in "Korea Town/Central LA" compared to wide street in "downtown DC." If you look at wide streets in "downtown LA" to make the comparison even, I'm not sure that they are that different in terms of urbanity:
That looks like Bethesda, Arlington, just bigger. Not DC.
The difference with not just LA, but a number of other cities when comparing the urban core to DC, is that they drop off to this level in multiple directions. That last link of LA I posted was in an entirely different direction to the West, this is 1 mile to the East of central DTLA:
DC stays more urban and "tall" for longer, and it's not just compared to LA, heck we go through this with Philly and Boston vs DC all the time. DC's urban core is 12+ story for much longer.
That looks like Bethesda, Arlington, just bigger. Not DC.
The difference with not just LA, but a number of other cities when comparing the urban core to DC, is that they drop off to this level in multiple directions. That last link of LA I posted was in an entirely different direction to the West, this is 1 mile to the East of central DTLA:
DC stays more urban and "tall" for longer, and it's not just compared to LA, heck we go through this with Philly and Boston vs DC all the time. DC's urban core is 12+ story for much longer.
DTLA isn't really the center of LA's urban like downtown is for DC. It's far to the East of LA's city limits. The middle of downtown LA is already about 4 miles from the core of LA's urban area, so your link above is 5 miles from the core.
Compare the image of LA five miles from the core to one of DC five miles from the core.
My take is that DC is more conventionally urban than LA. It has a big central office district that is exceeded only by NYC and Chicago in office space then it has maybe a 20 sq mile traditional urban residential core consisting of rowhouses and low/mid-rise apartments then that gives way to single family homes and some garden apartments in the outter city neighborhoods and inner-suburbs and finally more traditional low density suburbia with disconnected cul-de-sacs, strip malls.
LA has a huge dense basin that consists of an endless grid of tightly packed single family homes and tons of garden apartments. It's not traditionally urban like DC and doesn't "function" like a traditional downtown- centric urban city, but it holds its density over a much larger expanse.
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My take is that DC is more conventionally urban than LA. It has a big central office district that is exceeded only by NYC and Chicago in office space then it has maybe a 20 sq mile traditional urban residential core consisting of rowhouses and low/mid-rise apartments then that gives way to single family homes and some garden apartments in the outter city neighborhoods and inner-suburbs and finally more traditional low density suburbia with disconnected cul-de-sacs, strip malls.
LA has a huge dense basin that consists of an endless grid of tightly packed single family homes and tons of garden apartments. It's not traditionally urban like DC and doesn't "function" like a traditional downtown- centric urban city, but it holds its density over a much larger expanse.
My take is that DC is more conventionally urban than LA. It has a big central office district that is exceeded only by NYC and Chicago in office space then it has maybe a 20 sq mile traditional urban residential core consisting of rowhouses and low/mid-rise apartments then that gives way to single family homes and some garden apartments in the outter city neighborhoods and inner-suburbs and finally more traditional low density suburbia with disconnected cul-de-sacs, strip malls.
LA has a huge dense basin that consists of an endless grid of tightly packed single family homes and tons of garden apartments. It's not traditionally urban like DC and doesn't "function" like a traditional downtown- centric urban city, but it holds its density over a much larger expanse.
I don't think that the bolded is accurate. LA has a very dense 50 square miles or so that has relatively few single family homes and very few garden apartment style developments, if you mean what I think that you mean by that term. It's primarily apartment buildings (one building per property) that are tightly packed, with some single family homes and neighborhoods mixed in.
This area of LA is both residential/employment intense. More residential intense than DC, but not nearly the job intensity that DC has.
This is what I think of when I hear "garden apartment". A complex with multiple buildings 2-3 stories tall. Is that what's meant? Because that's more characteristic of suburban LA than the core. The one below is in Inglewood.
This is what I think of when I hear "garden apartment". A complex with multiple buildings 2-3 stories tall. Is that what's meant? Because that's more characteristic of suburban LA than the core. The one below is in Inglewood.
Yup. I think that they must have been super popular in the 50's through the 80's. Not saying that LA doesn't have a ton, but they aren't typical of the core as most of the core is older than that.
This is what I think of when I hear "garden apartment". A complex with multiple buildings 2-3 stories tall. Is that what's meant? Because that's more characteristic of suburban LA than the core. The one below is in Inglewood.
Yes that's exactly what it is.
Garden apartments are typical of suburban areas. Low-rise building loosely connected with courtyards. The backs of the buildings are usually wrapped in surface parking
Yes that's exactly what it is.
Garden apartments are typical of suburban areas. Low-rise building loosely connected with courtyards. The backs of the buildings are usually wrapped in surface parking
Yeah, thank you. I've lived in more than one in the Southeast and also two other ones in LA. The ones in LA are much more tightly packed, but still suburban.
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