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Some have quibbled with my use of "garden style" to describe LA apartments. Fine.
I should state LA has lots of apartments that look like this: https://maps.app.goo.gl/pFhEKZUed8ykMKhn9
Statistically dense, but not particularly urban in design.
Yes that's exactly what it is.
Garden apartments are typical of suburban areas. Low-rise building loosely connected with courtyards. The backs of the buildings are usually wrapped in surface parking
And DC is not immune to the garden apartment. There are plenty there too. I lived in one.
DC has sooo many garden style apartments, oh my goodness. But it becomes a legitimate SICKNESS in its Maryland suburbs most notably PG County. I hated that about PG
I didn’t even know what they were called until I moved to DC.
Some have quibbled with my use of "garden style" to describe LA apartments. Fine.
I should state LA has lots of apartments that look like this: https://maps.app.goo.gl/pFhEKZUed8ykMKhn9
Statistically dense, but not particularly urban in design.
Are you talking about the buildings on that street or the address that you used? The style of that address is uncommon as can be seen by the rest of the street.
As for the rest of the street, that's part of the discussion. The city where that street is located, West Hollywood, has nearly 20,000 ppsm and tons of amenities. I say that is urban, but others may disagree because it has parking and doesn't match visions of other cities perceived to be urban.
Even on DC's "widest" streets there's a consistent urban street wall stretching for blocks and blocks and blocks without dropping. And you still feel like you're in the middle of an urban center when looking down the side streets.
Yea, LA is definitely splotchy with parts of those wide streets in Central LA where it's pocked with fairly low-rise stripmall parking lot building which you picked one along Vermont in East Hollywood. However, along with that are also wide streets like this one in downtown LA that has fairly tall skyscrapers: https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0510...7i16384!8i8192
You're right that DTLA still has some surface parking lots though chances are any streetview of DTLA that's a year and a half old or older is now under development as those surface parking lots have quickly been developed.
I think what sets Central LA apart though is the nodes that are still more or less contiguous with the larger urban expanse and are dense like this bit in Hollywood: https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0997...7i16384!8i8192
I would say that Central LA is rather uneven as it's about the size of DC proper which is also pretty uneven in development. However, Central LA is uneven in development even on a much smaller scale where the blocks can vary pretty quickly. That being said, it's still pretty urban as it does encompass a lot of businesses and likely a much greater population density over probably any designated area size you want to draw in comparison to DC.
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DC doesn't have garden style apartments near it's DT or urban core. They are mostly on the outer fringes of SE/NE.
Aren’t those apartments across the street from my Vernon metro garden style apartments? If so, those are the only apartments of that style that’s near the downtown core.
Aren’t those apartments across the street from my Vernon metro garden style apartments? If so, those are the only apartments of that style that’s near the downtown core.
Probably, but I'd say that those are borderline. And less than 1 mile from the middle of DC's core.
In full disclosure, in the poll thread that I created, I pointed to an area on Wilshire/Hauser as "the middle of the core of LA". Only one block North on 6th street there several garden apartment developments that stretch for over a quarter mile. Let's keep that between me and you. jpdivola doesn't need to know about this at all. Shhh!
Within its urban core, Philadelphia comes in 3rd by every metric after New York and Chicago and this is pretty much non-debatable. No other city comes close to Philly, with the exception of San Francisco.
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Aren’t those apartments across the street from my Vernon metro garden style apartments? If so, those are the only apartments of that style that’s near the downtown core.
I believe you could classify them as that, you're right. But even those are coming down soon.
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