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naw...Las Vegas is a lot denser than Atlanta. both city and metro-wide. And no one thinks of LV as urban.
Atlanta has a decently urban downtown (skyscrapers are most of that effect) but honestly its a giant sprawling suburban area. I would never really describe it as urban on the ground-culturally, sure.
Uhhh.. Seattle, LA, Portland, Pittsburgh, BMore, NO could also compete for those spots.. Atlanta is urban around downtown and only along Peachtree St in Midtown. Buckhead has some towers but it's not urban at all on the ground level.
I was just playing around to trigger the forum lol. But you are wrong in your assessment. Visit Atlanta after Covid if you haven’t been in a minute.
I was just playing around to trigger the forum lol. But you are wrong in your assessment. Visit Atlanta after Covid if you haven’t been in a minute.
Was there early 2019. Theres been some developments but the city really isn't that urban outside of downtown and Peachtree St. You have smaller pockets here and there like Little five points but its just a few blocks of street retail. Atlantic station is just an outdoor shopping center on top of a giant parking garage. Cabbagetown is cute but again it's just a small pocket. Even in Midtown, once you go 4 blocks east or west from Peachtree St. you start to see single family homes on single lots and suburban style apartment complexes and there's tons of strip malls all over the city....
Not to trigger anyone .... but here is a 2018 link on Atlanta and how it grew outward more then even other Sunbelt cities. Has nothing to do with downtown increasing density and corridors outward and having 3 CBD's with 2 right next to one another anyway that also add to density. It is the fact that the city vision for decades was nothing to do with getting urban. It was basically anti-urbanizing. So when it says the city went from 50 miles to 120 miles by 2018..... it has a lot of catching up to do even if it maintains growth.
Atlanta embraces its - City in a Forest moniker. Making cul del sacs into a urban area .... is some task. Who really will be giving up a nice home on a wooded good-sized lot..... ESPECIALLY how this Covid era and hopefully soon >>> post-Covid era of a period of residual negativity toward denser living again .... is probably gonna be a factor? Atlanta's Small city-limits still has sprawl begin even in the city.
Does not make it less desirable for most in this era. Just embrace what it is and yes.... building core and corridor density is a value now..... Just cach-up from zoning to prevent it for soooooo many decades.
It is really about embracing what was Atlanta's core value and it is really about only parts of the city that have much home of urbanizing more. Drive-to multi-residential complexes adds density.... True more Urban form is another animal.
In order
1. NYC
2. Chicago
3. Philly
4. San Francisco
5. Boston 6. DC
The 6th most urban is DC.
Yeah, IMO DC is objectively the 6th most "traditionally" urban city. In a lot of ways it matches up pretty well with Boston. But, it can fairly be ranked lower for 2 reasons: 1) It doesn't quite hold its density to the same degree and 2) it lacks the mixed use big city Back Bay/DT core.
LA is such a wild card. I really don't know how to rank it. I'm include to put it 7th. Although, that feels like a cop out to me. In aggregate urbanism it is arguably 2 or 3. But, Seattle functions more like a traditional urban city than LA does.
There is no way I would rank Seattle ahead of Los Angeles. Downtown Los Angeles and its connected areas particularly west of downtown are pretty traditional. City West, Koreatown, Westlake, Hollywood all connected by subway, sidewalks and buses. After you leave downtown Seattle and Capitol Hill you get the Central District, Montlake, Madison Valley. Throw in Lower Queen Ann and the U-District and still just so-so.
There is no way I would rank Seattle ahead of Los Angeles. Downtown Los Angeles and its connected areas particularly west of downtown are pretty traditional. City West, Koreatown, Westlake, Hollywood all connected by subway, sidewalks and buses. After you leave downtown Seattle and Capitol Hill you get the Central District, Montlake, Madison Valley. Throw in Lower Queen Ann and the U-District and still just so-so.
I agree, but Seattle is also a MUCH smaller city than LA. Seattle is quite urban for its population size. Also the public transit in Seattle is impressive and reaches almost every nook of the city, even in low density SFH residential neighborhoods.
Was there early 2019. Theres been some developments but the city really isn't that urban outside of downtown and Peachtree St. You have smaller pockets here and there like Little five points but its just a few blocks of street retail. Atlantic station is just an outdoor shopping center on top of a giant parking garage. Cabbagetown is cute but again it's just a small pocket. Even in Midtown, once you go 4 blocks east or west from Peachtree St. you start to see single family homes on single lots and suburban style apartment complexes and there's tons of strip malls all over the city....
Does the city not get any credit for West Midtown/Upper Westside and the Beltline? Midtown itself has also been filling out rather nicely.
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