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I agree with NYC, Boston, Seattle, DC and Portland.
Minneapolis liberals seem to be the kinds of liberals who are pretty silent about their views, wouldn't really attend gay pride parades or stuff like that.
Philadelphia liberals don't really count, they only vote Democra for economic reasons, not because they support women's rights or anything.
Los Angeles is tricky because there are a lot of conservative suburbs, and just a lot of rich people who tend to vote Republican.
Minneapolis liberals seem to be the kinds of liberals who are pretty silent about their views, wouldn't really attend gay pride parades or stuff like that.
Yeah, I suppose none of the 450,000 people who attended Twin Cities Pride this year were liberals.
Okay, okay, cpomp and jennifat.
I guess I was wrong, I'm sure you guys know better since you actually live in Philly/Minneapolis.
Sorry for stereotyping.
Okay, okay, cpomp and jennifat.
I guess I was wrong, I'm sure you guys know better since you actually live in Philly/Minneapolis.
Sorry for stereotyping.
It's cool that you can admit you were wrong about that, HOWEVER, you were right about liberalism in Minneapolis at least in one respect: it's not as in-your-face as other liberal cities. Perhaps that's due to the local culture or something else, but I think that's a fair generalization.
There's a difference between being liberal and being a Democrat.
While many people in the Rust Belt will vote blue, few seem themselves as liberal. Many of these Democrats are against abortion, gay marriage, immigration and marijuana. They're not "faux liberal," they're just working-class populists who vote Democratic.
Also, most people in Orange County are moderate conservatives. Orange County will never be the epicenter of liberalism.
Sigh. Yet another City-Data Certified Authority on the Midwest who has never actually been there...
San Francisco, Seattle, and Portland are liberal cities.
Detroit is a city that Conservatives claim is liberal but its really not. It's solidly Democrat, but not liberal socially or even in a progressive thinking sense.
Austin is not really THAT liberal. Still has such a Texas influence on city politics, partially because their congressional districts are gerrymandered in a way that most of them are conservatives.
It's true that Detroit isn't SF, but a lot of people are working towards building it into a hipster city.
There's a very deep culture and history of socialist/communist party influences, militant black politics, and unions in Detroit.
Reuther (has a highway named after him), Young......
Detroit is also a sanctuary city.
It's not "white hippie" liberal like Ann Arbor is, but it's still liberal.
Also, it's simply kind of hard to be liberal in the "progressive thinking sense" when your city is bankrupt and has literally been falling apart for the past 50 years. (Although, they are finally building the M-1 commuter rail).
The rules that apply to SF or Seattle or Portland don't apply to Detroit. It's an entirely different beast. There is no local Apple or Google or Microsoft pumping millions (billions?) of dollars into the local economy. (Though, there is a google office in Ann Arbor).
If you came out during Labor Day and attended the parades and speeches downtown, then there's simply no way that anyone could conclude that that Detroit is a conservative town with conservative values.
Look at some of the things that have come out of city council......
It seems those on the far-left and far-right have very similar narrow views of what constitutes "true liberal" and "true conservative". This rhetoric of exclusiveness only encourages further division in this country, at the cost of those with open minds or flexible views.
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