Criteria to be considered "Black Mecca" (similarities, live, state)

[Mutiny77]

Originally Posted by atadytic19

I have lived in enough of these cities to tell you that going from Atlanta to Houston did not in anyway affect the feeling of comfort and belonging I had in that city as a Black person. Neither did going from Houston to DFW. Noticeable changes were felt in Miami, San Antonio, New York, LA and Seattle.

I can agree that "the feeling of comfort and belonging" you have as a Black person can include a lot of different cities. For me, I can say that as a current resident of metro Philly and a former resident of Atlanta and Charlotte. Of course Atlanta offers more "Black stuff" but I didn't/don't feel out of place or uncomfortable due to my race in the other two.

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by ckhthankgod

I think it is a matter of cost of living in regards to Atlanta and even DeKalb County has a median household income of roughly $51,000. That is $2000 above the state figure and the same amount below the national figure.

What is interesting is that NY State's Blackest zip code has a Black median HH income around $83-84,000: New York Black Population Percentage Zip Code Rank Based on US Census 2010 data

Here are some of the zip codes in SE Queens: 11411 Zip Code - USA.comâ„¢

11412 Zip Code - USA.comâ„¢

11413 Zip Code - USA.comâ„¢

11429 Zip Code - USA.comâ„¢

According to this info, these adjacent zip codes would roughly be 89% Black and have a Black median household income of about $76,500 with around 116,000 people.

[NoClueWho]

Originally Posted by atadytic19

No denying that black people flock to DC and Atlanta. There are many reasons to. But on a personal basis, to just as many people, experiences may be just a pleasant in say Houston or DFW.

Amen. Some people act like that's impossible or absurd, though.

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by ckhthankgod

Here are some of the zip codes in SE Queens: 11411 Zip Code - USA.com™

11412 Zip Code - USA.com™

11413 Zip Code - USA.com™

11429 Zip Code - USA.com™

According to this info, these adjacent zip codes would roughly be 89% Black and have a Black median household income of about $76,500 with around 116,000 people.

I forgot about this other adjacent zip code that is 84% Black and has/had a Black median household income of $86,432: 11422 Zip Code - USA.com™

So, using the info from this source, the percentage of the 5 adjacent zip codes together is 88.3% Black, with a Black median household income of $78,484 and has 147,880 people.

Just to put this into perspective, the metro median household income for the NYC metro is around $66,000 and for NY State it is slightly over $58,000. Queens County has a median household income of $57,000 and only 5 NY State counties have a higher median household income than that of those 5 adjacent SE Queens zip codes. I believe that the figure for those 5 zip codes is also higher than any state median household income as well and the Black median household income is the highest median household out of all groups in Queens.

[NoClueWho]

Originally Posted by SouthernBoy205

Are you on LipStick Alley?

When did LipStick Alley become "the black City-Data"? No offense, but the few times I wondered across it, it was full of women and gay guys who thought they were women engaging in celebrity gossip, talking about which male celebs they would do, and discussing Beyoncé's newest album. It was hardly informative. Has it changed or grown from that recently or something?

[stanley-88888888]

i pulled these datasets from american fact finder and took the largest 64 metros in the country.
they are listed in order by (city,state,black population,total population,black percentage):

[liveuser@localhost aff]$ ll *.csv
-rw-rw-r--. 1 liveuser liveuser 26202 Oct 11 17:01 ACS_14_1YR_B01003_with_ann.csv
-rw-rw-r--. 1 liveuser liveuser 25273 Oct 11 17:01 ACS_14_1YR_B02009_with_ann.csv
[liveuser@localhost aff]$ paste -d , ACS_14_1YR_B02009_with_ann.csv black-metro.lst ACS_14_1YR_B01003_with_ann.csv | awk -F , '{p = $5 / $11 * 100} {print $3 "," $4 "," $5 "," $11 ", " p}' | sort -nr --field-separator=',' --key=4 | head -n 64
"New York-Newark-Jersey City, NY-NJ-PA Metro Area", 3707482,20092883, 18.4517
"Los Angeles-Long Beach-Anaheim, CA Metro Area", 1020232,13262220, 7.69277
"Chicago-Naperville-Elgin, IL-IN-WI Metro Area", 1701208,9553810, 17.8066
"Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX Metro Area", 1139429,6954003, 16.3852
"Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land, TX Metro Area", 1170621,6490180, 18.0368
"Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD Metro Area", 1350274,6051170, 22.3143
"Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV Metro Area", 1627739,6032744, 26.9817
"Miami-Fort Lauderdale-West Palm Beach, FL Metro Area", 1332665,5929819, 22.474
"Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Roswell, GA Metro Area", 1945480,5611829, 34.6675
"Boston-Cambridge-Newton, MA-NH Metro Area", 452403,4732161, 9.56018
"San Francisco-Oakland-Hayward, CA Metro Area", 423823,4594060, 9.22546
"Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ Metro Area", 280963,4489109, 6.25877
"Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA Metro Area", 381231,4441890, 8.58263
"Detroit-Warren-Dearborn, MI Metro Area", 1011137,4296611, 23.5334
"Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA Metro Area", 279365,3671478, 7.60906
"Minneapolis-St. Paul-Bloomington, MN-WI Metro Area", 321746,3495176, 9.20543
"San Diego-Carlsbad, CA Metro Area", 207310,3263431, 6.35252
"Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL Metro Area", 387273,2915582, 13.2829
"St. Louis, MO-IL Metro Area", 541374,2805856, 19.2944
"Baltimore-Columbia-Towson, MD Metro Area", 853314,2785874, 30.63
"Denver-Aurora-Lakewood, CO Metro Area", 183730,2754258, 6.67076
"Charlotte-Concord-Gastonia, NC-SC Metro Area", 561252,2380314, 23.5789
"Pittsburgh, PA Metro Area", 226667,2355968, 9.62097
"Portland-Vancouver-Hillsboro, OR-WA Metro Area", 91700,2347127, 3.9069
"San Antonio-New Braunfels, TX Metro Area", 183599,2326665, 7.89108
"Orlando-Kissimmee-Sanford, FL Metro Area", 409804,2321418, 17.6532
"San Juan-Carolina-Caguas, PR Metro Area", 369399,2244470, 16.4582
"Sacramento--Roseville--Arden-Arcade, CA Metro Area", 204047,2244397, 9.0914
"Cincinnati, OH-KY-IN Metro Area", 286798,2149971, 13.3396
"Kansas City, MO-KS Metro Area", 290779,2070221, 14.0458
"Las Vegas-Henderson-Paradise, NV Metro Area", 263285,2069681, 12.721
"Cleveland-Elyria, OH Metro Area", 443397,2063598, 21.4866
"Columbus, OH Metro Area", 329800,1994536, 16.5352
"Indianapolis-Carmel-Anderson, IN Metro Area", 316292,1972241, 16.0372
"San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA Metro Area", 64400,1952872, 3.29771
"Austin-Round Rock, TX Metro Area", 163960,1943299, 8.4372
"Nashville-Davidson--Murfreesboro--Franklin, TN Metro Area", 292556,1792468, 16.3214
"Virginia Beach-Norfolk-Newport News, VA-NC Metro Area", 562429,1717387, 32.7491
"Providence-Warwick, RI-MA Metro Area", 113323,1609367, 7.04146
"Milwaukee-Waukesha-West Allis, WI Metro Area", 279723,1572245, 17.7913
"Jacksonville, FL Metro Area", 327849,1419127, 23.1022
"Memphis, TN-MS-AR Metro Area", 632266,1344121, 47.0394
"Oklahoma City, OK Metro Area", 165524,1336767, 12.3824
"Louisville/Jefferson County, KY-IN Metro Area", 200380,1265210, 15.8377
"Richmond, VA Metro Area", 395844,1260668, 31.3995
"New Orleans-Metairie, LA Metro Area", 445863,1251849, 35.6164
"Raleigh, NC Metro Area", 266864,1242974, 21.4698
"Hartford-West Hartford-East Hartford, CT Metro Area", 152606,1214295, 12.5675
"Salt Lake City, UT Metro Area", 25801,1153340, 2.23707
"Birmingham-Hoover, AL Metro Area", 335709,1143772, 29.351
"Buffalo-Cheektowaga-Niagara Falls, NY Metro Area", 155174,1136360, 13.6554
"Rochester, NY Metro Area", 140366,1083393, 12.9561
"Grand Rapids-Wyoming, MI Metro Area", 81845,1027703, 7.96388
"Tucson, AZ Metro Area", 48039,1004516, 4.7823
"Urban Honolulu, HI Metro Area", 42964,991788, 4.33197
"Tulsa, OK Metro Area", 94876,970391, 9.77709
"Fresno, CA Metro Area", 59165,965974, 6.12491
"Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk, CT Metro Area", 113380,945438, 11.9923
"Worcester, MA-CT Metro Area", 55275,930473, 5.94053
"Albuquerque, NM Metro Area", 29231,905213, 3.22918
"Omaha-Council Bluffs, NE-IA Metro Area", 83239,904491, 9.20286
"Albany-Schenectady-Troy, NY Metro Area", 83803,880167, 9.52126
"Bakersfield, CA Metro Area", 57661,874589, 6.59293
"Greenville-Anderson-Mauldin, SC Metro Area", 154792,862463, 17.9477

i organized them by region (cities ranked lower than 16 were moved to another region)
here are the links to the survey; i will start the 2nd round in 1 week (sunday):
east:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/8G7F5TR

south:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/8GP9XQW

midwest:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/8BXVR26

west:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/8HV5WTW

[SouthernBoy205]

Nice list.

[Spade]

Looking at that list, looks like DC is going to pass Chicago. Miami could pass Philadelphia and DFW is creeping up on Houston. The gap was 80k in 2000. It's now down to 30k. Both will be over 1.2 million by 2020 and Atlanta will have over 2 million by 2020 as well.

[SouthernBoy205]

Some lists have different estimates. Each list that was posted was off from each other.

[BajanYankee]

Originally Posted by SouthernBoy205

Some lists have different estimates. Each list that was posted was off from each other.

Those are numbers for "Black or African American Alone Or In Combination With One Or More Races."