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I was saying Kansas City sports as a whole (Chiefs, Royals) are better than Cleveland (Browns, Indians, Cavs). Of course MLS does not compare to NBA. But KC has more successful teams. And while the Cavs are good now, they have yet to win the NBA title. Meanwhile, the Royals just won their second.
The point is that the Cleveland has major pro sports year-round, along with an AHL and arena football league franchise, all in a great downtown sports/entertainment/dining districts, all connected with rail mass transit even though easily walkable.
It's why I prefer the Cleveland sports scene to that in KC. If Cleveland starts garnering championships, not unlikely, KC will have nothing to hang on its pro sports mantle by comparison.
It's why I prefer the Cleveland sports scene to that in KC. If Cleveland starts garnering championships, not unlikely, KC will have nothing to hang on its pro sports mantle by comparison.
Cleveland has some catching up to do, and your NFL and MLB are currently far behind ours. I do not see much of a real comparision when looking at quality, though you could say the Cavs are similiar to the Royals
Cleveland has some catching up to do, and your NFL and MLB are currently far behind ours. I do not see much of a real comparision when looking at quality, though you could say the Cavs are similiar to the Royals
I'm sorry but the mls really really really doesn't count. It's on par with a single a team to the rest of the world. I mean, I'm glad you're happy with it, but it's not worth a whole lot. It doesn't even look like you know the teams name either by the way. "Mls team"?
Indians and Browns have tradition that I'll take. Of course would love a championship,but being a fan is about support even when the team isn't winning. Cavs are fun to watch.
I'm sorry but the mls really really really doesn't count. It's on par with a single a team to the rest of the world. I mean, I'm glad you're happy with it, but it's not worth a whole lot. It doesn't even look like you know the teams name either by the way. "Mls team"?
Indians and Browns have tradition that I'll take. Of course would love a championship,but being a fan is about support even when the team isn't winning. Cavs are fun to watch.
Royals>Indians, Chiefs>Browns. The Cavs have no NBA titles. KC doesn't even need its MLS team (their called Sporting KC) to outperform. No one is saying MLS is better than NBA. Just showing how the Kansas City teams (Chiefs/Royals) have been more successful in all leagues.
I'm sorry but the mls really really really doesn't count. It's on par with a single a team to the rest of the world. I mean, I'm glad you're happy with it, but it's not worth a whole lot. It doesn't even look like you know the teams name either by the way. "Mls team"?
Indians and Browns have tradition that I'll take. Of course would love a championship,but being a fan is about support even when the team isn't winning. Cavs are fun to watch.
Why doesn't it? It's a newer league. I guess a city with brand new expansion team in any league also doesn't count? It might be a lower grade of soccer when compared to some world leagues, but I hope you are not saying it's like single A baseball or something. MLS is a pretty big deal even though they have a smaller footprint with less teams and have only been around for 20 years or so. DC is building a new MLS stadium near the Nationals Park. It's a pretty big deal in DC.
He probably said "MLS team" because KC won when they were called the Wizards and after they changed to Sporting KC.
Why doesn't it? It's a newer league. I guess a city with brand new expansion team in any league also doesn't count? It might be a lower grade of soccer when compared to some world leagues, but I hope you are not saying it's like single A baseball or something. MLS is a pretty big deal even though the have a smaller footprint with less team and have only been around for 20 years or so. DC is building a new stadium near the Nationals Park. It's a pretty big deal in DC.
He probably said "MLS team" because KC won when they were called the Wizards and after than changed to Sporting KC.
Very true and nice to see all our franchises doing well. Maybe Sporting will become the "Packers" of MLS. While KC has newer (and in some peoples minds fewer) big league teams, we still have more titles. I don't think there is much argument with this one.
City-data is loaded with posters who pontificate on things of which they know little.
The more you spout off, the more obvious that becomes. Cleveland has a very good and reknown orchestra. We get it, most of us knew that long before you pontificated on it 13 or 14 times. But if you think the CMA has a thing on the Nelson, or that the orchestra and Playhouse Square are somehow more "important" to Cleveland than the arts are to KC (or make for a better, more thriving arts scene) you're out of your depth. That's like arguing KC is more historic and more cultured because it has the National World War I museum.
If your measure of a good city is sports championships, I'd say you don't have your priorities right.
There are several posters on this website that measure how great a city is by their skyline, so I guess sports championships aren't out of the question lol. At any rate that's not what the argument is about. The question is really what good are sports franchises that never deliver championships or even make it to the playoffs? I'd prefer KC's 2 franchises to Cleveland's 3. However, we may all have egg on our faces if the Cavaliers win a championship next month, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Both KC and Cleveland are cool cities with different vibes. Personally I prefer KC over Cleveland. However, I'd rather live in Ohio than Missouri or Kansas.
The more you spout off, the more obvious that becomes. Cleveland has a very good and reknown orchestra. We get it, most of us knew that long before you pontificated on it 13 or 14 times. But if you think the CMA has a thing on the Nelson, or that the orchestra and Playhouse Square are somehow more "important" to Cleveland than the arts are to KC (or make for a better, more thriving arts scene) you're out of your depth. That's like arguing KC is more historic and more cultured because it has the National World War I museum.
This is great lol
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. While KC has newer (and in some peoples minds fewer) big league teams, we still have more titles. I don't think there is much argument with this one.