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Tbf at the time when the show was filmed, Medellin had murder rates of like 380/100k, and Cali was around 100/100k. Both cities have improved a lot. Very impressive how much both cities have lowered the crime rates, and the fact that they have managed to become safer than St Louis and even Chicago. The days of Narcos are gone in these cities
Montego Bay, Jamaica has rate of 229 per 100,000 with population of 111,000 city had 264 murder that instance as early December.
Montego Bay, Jamaica has rate of 229 per 100,000 with population of 111,000 city had 264 murder that instance as early December.
Probably too small to make the most dangerous lists. It's crazy tho. Jamaica lowkey has been putting up some insane murder rates over the past couple years. It's really sad since it seems like a nice island with a lot of culture
Austin, Texas 29
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania 15 there was 16 in 2016
State of Maine 20 homicides in entire state in 2017
Saginaw, Michigan 16 in 2017 compare to 11 in 2016
Springfield, Missouri 17 in 2017 compare to 8 in 2016
Camden, New Jersey 24
Wichita Falls, Texas 5
Baltimore County, Maryland 35 the county has 800,000 residents
Memphis 200
Stockton, CA 55 compare to 49 in 2016
San Antonio, Texas 149
Akron, Ohio 42
Miami, Florida final 2017 count is 60 same as 2016.
Tucson, Arizona 17
Fort Worth, Texas 70
Boston, Mass 58 but overall crime was down 7% compare to 2016 only shootings/homicides saw upstick
NYC 290 homicides, 937 person wounded by gunfire in 790 incidents, 13,950 robberies, 20,013 assaults. 12,048 break ins it very big city but compare to 80 and 90s these numbers are double to triple also early 2000's much higher.
The Bronx recorded 72 homicides compare to 90 in 2016
Manhattan overall record 46 compare to 41 without truck indent it would be 35.
Queens has record 50 homicides compare to 47 there upstick in homicides in southeastern Queens
Brooklyn has record 110 homicides compare to 128 in 2016
Staten Island has record 12 compare to 21 in 2016.
Tbf at the time when the show was filmed, Medellin had murder rates of like 380/100k, and Cali was around 100/100k. Both cities have improved a lot. Very impressive how much both cities have lowered the crime rates, and the fact that they have managed to become safer than St Louis and even Chicago. The days of Narcos are gone in these cities
Agree it's impressive, but Medellin as of 2015 had a rate of 20 per 100K according to my source. In 2015, the homicide rate of Chicago was around 17 per 100K, so it's entirely false to say Medllin in 2015 had a lower rate than Chicago. Between 2004 and 2015 in Chicago (12 years), only 1 year had a rate above 20 per 100K (2005). 2016 was a severe blip increasing by nearly 300 homicides from the year before. 2017 started out badly too and the year ended up with about 100 less than 2016 (over 100 depending on the source) - and that is because the last few months reduced drastically which hopefully on average continues well into 2018 and the numbers get down to at most what they were a few years prior.
Agree it's impressive, but Medellin as of 2015 had a rate of 20 per 100K according to my source. In 2015, the homicide rate of Chicago was around 17 per 100K, so it's entirely false to say Medllin in 2015 had a lower rate than Chicago. Between 2004 and 2015 in Chicago (12 years), only 1 year had a rate above 20 per 100K (2005). 2016 was a severe blip increasing by nearly 300 homicides from the year before. 2017 started out badly too and the year ended up with about 100 less than 2016 (over 100 depending on the source) - and that is because the last few months reduced drastically which hopefully on average continues well into 2018 and the numbers get down to at most what they were a few years prior.
Well the past two years Medellin has been safer. It's similar to Chicago in many ways, violence is divided too. You have some horrible neighborhoods up north, while the south is very nice and developed. Medellin sadly saw an increase the past two years, but still, a million times safer than before. I do think that Chicago will get safer again going forward, but the fact that for two years a place like Medellin could do better than Chicago...that's impressive. Hopefully as the tech money keeps flowing into the "Colombia's Silicon Valley" the crime will decline there too
Well the past two years Medellin has been safer. It's similar to Chicago in many ways, violence is divided too. You have some horrible neighborhoods up north, while the south is very nice and developed. Medellin sadly saw an increase the past two years, but still, a million times safer than before. I do think that Chicago will get safer again going forward, but the fact that for two years a place like Medellin could do better than Chicago...that's impressive. Hopefully as the tech money keeps flowing into the "Colombia's Silicon Valley" the crime will decline there too
Crime being divided is the case for most cities around the world really - not all, but a big majority. This thread is about homicides, so I don't know why we are using it to be synonymous with crime (maybe we aren't). Chicago's rates for other violent crimes are lower than other cities that we believe are safer - but in reality, not really when you consider that the chances of you being robbed, assaulted, etc anywhere are incredibly higher than the chances of you being murdered. Homicides obviously impact daily life, but other crimes impact your daily life more and should be considered with at least equal importance (and sometimes more especially if you are dealing with areas of low homicide).
Crime being divided is the case for most cities around the world really - not all, but a big majority. This thread is about homicides, so I don't know why we are using it to be synonymous with crime (maybe we aren't). Chicago's rates for other violent crimes are lower than other cities that we believe are safer - but in reality, not really when you consider that the chances of you being robbed, assaulted, etc anywhere are incredibly higher than the chances of you being murdered. Homicides obviously impact daily life, but other crimes impact your daily life more and should be considered with at least equal importance (and sometimes more especially if you are dealing with areas of low homicide).
Problem with other crimes is all places report them differently and it's really easy to fudge things like Robbery, or just underreport it
Problem with other crimes is all places report them differently and it's really easy to fudge things like Robbery, or just underreport it
No, not all report differently - just some which is country country. A lot of countries have standards with how these things are reported. The United States FBI has the UCR which most every PD follows for their standards for crime reporting. That means that yes, I can totally compare Chicago and Houston's assault rates. Under reporting is a problem with every single PD in the United States and many around the world. Not sure what your point is with this. It's not like Dallas magically reports all of its crime but Phoenix doesn't - a lot of stuff might not get reported all over the place.
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