Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S. > City vs. City
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 06-02-2017, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Michigan
4,647 posts, read 8,596,557 times
Reputation: 3776

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronG1221 View Post
Source for homicide count?
DPD.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 06-02-2017, 07:59 AM
 
142 posts, read 193,580 times
Reputation: 210
Quote:
Originally Posted by animatedmartian View Post
Murders, shootings increase in Detroit in first quarter of 2017
This article here is saying they were already at 66 by March 26? It's hard to keep track on what the real number is when cities don't have a well laid out page for homicides like Baltimore, Chicago, Memphis etc.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-02-2017, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Michigan
4,647 posts, read 8,596,557 times
Reputation: 3776
Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronG1221 View Post
Murders, shootings increase in Detroit in first quarter of 2017
This article here is saying they were already at 66 by March 26? It's hard to keep track on what the real number is when cities don't have a well laid out page for homicides like Baltimore, Chicago, Memphis etc.
It actually is kind of confusing. I don't think DPD is counting the number of victims in each incident but count each incident as a singular criminal offence.

For instance, during that week of March, a suspect, was charged with 3 counts of murder and aggravated assault after shooting 4 people and killing 3 of them. DPD lists that as one homicide offense.

Earlier in that week, a fire broke out at an apartment building. 5 people died. It was later determined to be arson committed by one of the residents. He was then charged with 5 counts of murder, however, DPD still listed the incident as an arson and not a homicide or homicides.

So wherever that article got its source from, it probably counts the number of victims in each incident rather than what the incident was classified under.

However, that's still problematic because there was also a fatal drunk driving accident that same week in which the driver was charged with murder, but doesn't count as murder in either sources. So is it 9, 8, 3, or 2?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-02-2017, 04:26 PM
 
6,542 posts, read 12,037,130 times
Reputation: 5241
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant131531 View Post
Atlanta is at 26 as of May 27th so 1 murder since the last reporting.
There was one more yesterday in Buckhead.

http://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law/s...0f8EpXwfFAtMI/
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-02-2017, 08:08 PM
 
7,108 posts, read 8,963,320 times
Reputation: 6415
Quote:
Originally Posted by animatedmartian View Post
It actually is kind of confusing. I don't think DPD is counting the number of victims in each incident but count each incident as a singular criminal offence.

For instance, during that week of March, a suspect, was charged with 3 counts of murder and aggravated assault after shooting 4 people and killing 3 of them. DPD lists that as one homicide offense.

Earlier in that week, a fire broke out at an apartment building. 5 people died. It was later determined to be arson committed by one of the residents. He was then charged with 5 counts of murder, however, DPD still listed the incident as an arson and not a homicide or homicides.

So wherever that article got its source from, it probably counts the number of victims in each incident rather than what the incident was classified under.

However, that's still problematic because there was also a fatal drunk driving accident that same week in which the driver was charged with murder, but doesn't count as murder in either sources. So is it 9, 8, 3, or 2?
Wow! I know they have the same method in Chicago. It doesn't help anyone. I know St.Louis counts every single homicide. That is why I dont like rankings and comparing. It isn't all apples to apples.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-03-2017, 10:54 AM
 
448 posts, read 591,583 times
Reputation: 257
Albuquerque at 27 now after a double homicide last night.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-04-2017, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Edmonds, WA
8,975 posts, read 10,204,425 times
Reputation: 14247
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant131531 View Post

Yeah, but this forum also generally focuses on cities themselves and the urbanity so the average urbanite will be living in the city limits and not the suburbs so crime rates of cities do in fact matter especially since they generally hold the lion share of violent crime anyway.
I would say the focus is on the metro area or at least urbanized area, not the city limits which are generally seen as arbitrary. Except of course in cases like this where it makes certain areas look safer than they actually are.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-04-2017, 02:59 PM
 
7,108 posts, read 8,963,320 times
Reputation: 6415
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluefox View Post
I would say the focus is on the metro area or at least urbanized area, not the city limits which are generally seen as arbitrary. Except of course in cases like this where it makes certain areas look safer than they actually are.
Right.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-04-2017, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Maine
1,285 posts, read 1,393,839 times
Reputation: 1008
Homicide, robbery, burglary, aggravated assault, vehicle theft and arson are all up considerably in Charlotte. A murder just happened a couple hours ago.

Charlotte homicides (yearly total):
2014: 44
2015: 60
2016: 68
2017: 37 YTD (on track for about 90, potentially 100)

Last edited by joeyg2014; 06-04-2017 at 05:19 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-04-2017, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
32,616 posts, read 77,591,433 times
Reputation: 19101
Pittsburgh is now at 24 homicides for 2017.

Adjusting for the newly-released 2016 population estimate of 303,625 the city's 2017 homicide rate is now 7.9/100,000 residents, which is barely lower than Philadelphia.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S. > City vs. City
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top