In which city is "water" most ingrained in its culture? (live, better)

[Ralph_Kirk]

Originally Posted by mhays25

I'll give it to Miami because the weather helps make water-focused living more attractive.

But one point I'll emphasize for Seattle: You can see water from a large percentage of homes and workplaces. Why? Hills. You don't need to be in a tower or near water to see it. Even if you can't see it from inside there's a good chance you can from a nearby street.

Guineas and others have made a lot of great points. Another I'll emphasize is how easy it is to spend your time around water, because it's close by for a lot of people, and various methods are easy and cheap or free -- waterfront parks and piers, ferries, riding your bike across a floating bridge (two on Lake Washington), and so on.

I think this is the best explanation of "water most ingrained into its culture," but I'd still count Honolulu higher than Miami.

[Joakim3]

There’s definitely some cities that got left out.

NYC, Chicago, San Diego & Baltimore are all more water “ingrained” than New Orleans & SF. Hell you could make a genuine case for putting them all above Seattle as well.

[Calisonn]

Originally Posted by Joakim3

There’s definitely some cities that got left out.

NYC, Chicago, San Diego & Baltimore are all more water “ingrained” than New Orleans & SF. Hell you could make a genuine case for putting them all above Seattle as well.

No way in hell is NYC, Chicago, Baltimore, or even San Diego above Seattle, you have no clue what you're talking about.

[Joakim3]

Originally Posted by Calisonn

No way in hell is NYC, Chicago, Baltimore, or even San Diego above Seattle, you have no clue what you're talking about.

…. I lived in Baltimore. Currently live in San Diego and have been too all the cities I’ve mentioned multiple times (SF excluded). All are just as water “ingrained” as Seattle wether it be current/historic culture, infrastructure, economics or leisurely actives and that’s not a shot at Seattle. Hell you could argue Norfolk is in the same water culture “tier” as those cities as well.

[popka]

This thread again? Anyone not voting for Miami is either ignorant or in denial. The Miami area has by far the largest population with the most ingrained water culture in the entire first world, let alone just the U.S.

[JohnGuterson]

Originally Posted by Joakim3

…. I lived in Baltimore. Currently live in San Diego and have been too all the cities I’ve mentioned multiple times (SF excluded). All are just as water “ingrained” as Seattle wether it be current/historic culture, infrastructure, economics or leisurely actives and that’s not a shot at Seattle. Hell you could argue Norfolk is in the same water culture “tier” as those cities as well.

Gotta disagree with you there. Seattle to me is number one for all the reasons already mentioned - water cuts through the city everywhere. You’ve got Elliot Bay, Shilshole Bay, Lake Union, Lake Washington, Greenlake, the ship canal (i.e a river) bisecting the city. I’ve never been to a city where water is so dominant. Also the busiest ferry system in the world, surrounded by islands, seafood being the main cuisine, arguably the most famous fish market in the country, Seafair, speed boat races, a world-class port, The Ballard Locks, everything in the city having a maritime theme, heck even all the sports team names are all water-related.

[popka]

For all the people who voted for Seattle here's a list I made a while ago showing all the things that the Miami area beats the Seattle area in regarding water culture. It also leads the world for many of these things.








- Hurricanes and hurricane related culture (hurricane parties and fear)
- Beaches and beach culture
- Pool culture and pool parties
- Jet skiing
- Swimming
- Scuba diving
- Snorkeling
- Everglades and Everglades culture
- Yachts and yacht parties
- Having the 1st and 2nd ranked cruise ship ports in the entire world
- Close trips across the water to numerous Caribbean islands
- Beautiful people all over in swimwear
- Numerous causeways and bridges connecting dense urban areas
- Lounge parties on the beach
- Flash lightning storms
- Miami is at the forefront of the global warming discussion
- Many times more bars, restraunts and retail shops directly on water
- Rooftop parties on waterfronts
- Many times more highrises and mansions directly on water and all waterfront properties for that matter
- Amazing nightlife on the beaches
- Largest boat show in the entire world and another one that ranks in the top 10 largest
- Much, much busier beaches
- Nude beaches
- Florida keys close by
- The vibrancy, nightlife and walkability of the Miami Beach island
- Lake Okeechobee is only 40 minutes west of the Miami metro area (Largest lake in the lower 48 states after the Great Lakes and the Great Salt Lake)
- Dozens and dozens of skylines directly on waterfront
- Miami is in numerous movies showcasing it's water culture
- The worlds perception of Miami's water culture is much stronger than Seattles
- Biodiversity
- More domesticated​ animals actually going in the water
- Many more water themed restaurants, bars, clubs, lounges and retail shops
- Many, many times more people with a view of water from their home
- Many t.v. shows showcasing Miami's water culture
- Dozens and dozens of dense urban environments on waterfronts that are walkable and vibrant and filled with small shops, restaurants, hotels, bars, clubs, lounges and many other surprising things a lot of which are one of a kind
- The climate allows year round water culture and activities to ingrain themselves automatically
- Much warmer water temperatures year round
- Thousands of inlets and canals all up and down the coast
- Thousands of man made bodies of water all over the western suburbs of South Florida. Here's a link showing just a super tiny fraction of the bodies of water
https://www.city-data.com/forum/48284965-post272.html

- Many songs mentioning Miami's water culture
- Massive numbers of tourists coming to experience Miami's water culture. Miami receives more international tourists than Los Angeles despite being 13 times smaller in land area size
- Massive number of snowbirds who like to enjoy the water culture for the 5 months they are there
- Many more people with boat dock access and just more docks in general
- Much easier access to water than Seattle
- Fort Lauderdale's official city nickname is "The Venice of America"
- The Miami area has many, many more cities and other places with a "water" or "beach" name than Seattle
- Many times more hotels on waterfront than Seattle
- Huge intercoastal waterway going all the way up the coastline
- The largest mangrove system in the world
- Tropical reefs
- The 2010 census says Fisher Island in Miami is the highest per capita income area in the U.S. and it's only accessible by boat, ferry or helicopter
- Much cleaner and clearer water
- Much nicer color water
- By far the largest tropical urban beach environment in the entire first world
- Swimwear fashion capitol of the world
- Sandwiched between two national parks that are made of water
- Hundreds of restraunts and shops that have docks for you to park your boat for free and walk up. Some even have boat valet service
- People spend much, much, muuucch more money directly on the waterfronts than Seattle
- Much larger government water management system
- People all over the Miami area are from places with strong water culture already and they are much more likely to interact with water than the demographics Seattle has
- Swamps and wetlands all over the area
- Airboat and airboat tours
- Do a Google search for these 4 search terms below and see what the top 30 results say
- Yachting Capital of the world
- Boating Capitol of the world
- Diving Capitol of the​ World
- Fishing Capitol of the World
- Much larger variety of coastal plants and vegetation
- Many more piers
- Much more extensive canal system running everywhere
- One of the top bass fishing spots in the world
- Coral reefs
- People traveling to different countries by boat
- No other place in the world has the unique combination and concentration of the things that South Beach offers
- Strong sea breeze
- Year round speed boats and speed boat tours

[Surge0001]

Dude, I think your taking this just a tad too seriously. Personally gonna have to go with New Orleans on this one over either Maimi or Seattle

[rnc2mbfl]

Originally Posted by popka

This thread again? Anyone not voting for Miami is either ignorant or in denial. The Miami area has by far the largest population with the most ingrained water culture in the entire first world, let alone just the U.S.

Water makes its way into so many aspects of life in Miami. It's not only to the east with bays, the intercoastal waterway, and the Atlantic Ocean, but it's also to the west with the Everglades. In between the ocean and the swamps, canals and retention ponds drain water to make the city habitable. Our tropical weather brings us rain in every season of the year, and when it's not raining, water hangs in the air in the form of humidity.
Our most dangerous animals are water creatures including alligators, crocodiles, and snakes: especially the Burmese Pythons.
Water is integral to how we enjoy ourselves with days at the beach, boating in the bay, paddle boarding in the quiet area of the bay and among the waterfront homes. A surprising number of Miamians have some sort of boat, and it spans a wide variety of income classes.
Our natural disasters are also related to water in the form of floods and hurricanes, while our biggest long term threat to existence is sea level rise.

[Surge0001]

Originally Posted by rnc2mbfl

Water makes its way into so many aspects of life in Miami. It's not only to the east with bays, the intercoastal waterway, and the Atlantic Ocean, but it's also to the west with the Everglades. In between the ocean and the swamps, canals and retention ponds drain water to make the city habitable. Our tropical weather brings us rain in every season of the year, and when it's not raining, water hangs in the air in the form of humidity.
Our most dangerous animals are water creatures including alligators, crocodiles, and snakes: especially the Burmese Pythons.
Water is integral to how we enjoy ourselves with days at the beach, boating in the bay, paddle boarding in the quiet area of the bay and among the waterfront homes. A surprising number of Miamians have some sort of boat, and it spans a wide variety of income classes.
Our natural disasters are also related to water in the form of floods and hurricanes, while our biggest long term threat to existence is sea level rise.

That basically describes just about most coastlines along the gulf and east coast