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Don't worry, he'll come back to praising Charleston and Savannah as beautiful historic cities, after he finishes getting the "ugly coastline" and "US division" talk out of his system.
Captain Falcon has very oscillatory viewpoints.
Savannah is more friendly and I think more attractive than Charleston but to each his own. What I don't like is the water color/clarity of their ocean beaches (don't look very subtropical), and the ups and downs every winter with cold fronts.
People go on and on about gorgeous Hilton Head Island and yet twice now in 2016 and 2017 I visited the beach and the water is just neither blue or green but rather brown. Not a nice beach and after visiting the Med would never want to step in it.
The town of Beaufort though is very nice and clean and Savannah is a gem of landscape and architecture.
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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I hope you aren't talking about Phoenix.
What do you mean? A freeze is a temp of 28°F or less for five consecutive hours. That never happens here, at least not anymore. We get occasional frost, averaging 3 per year. And we didn't even have a frost this last winter, lowest temp was 35°F.
And in the 16 years I've lived here, it has never been below 29°F
What do you mean? A freeze is a temp of 28°F or less for five consecutive hours. That never happens here, at least not anymore. We get occasional frost, averaging 3 per year. And we didn't even have a frost this last winter, lowest temp was 35°F.
And in the 16 years I've lived here, it has never been below 29°F
Savannah is more friendly and I think more attractive than Charleston but to each his own. What I don't like is the water color/clarity of their ocean beaches (don't look very subtropical), and the ups and downs every winter with cold fronts.
People go on and on about gorgeous Hilton Head Island and yet twice now in 2016 and 2017 I visited the beach and the water is just neither blue or green but rather brown. Not a nice beach and after visiting the Med would never want to step in it.
The town of Beaufort though is very nice and clean and Savannah is a gem of landscape and architecture.
Both Savannah and Charleston always seemed about the same to me; both are historic southern cities in the same geographic area, and with the same vegetation. It's quite interesting that you were able to find strong preference of one over the other.
As far as the beaches, the Low Country beaches are the more "swampy" kind of subtropical, with all the Sea Island/tidal marsh network. The water clarity seems to get better from Myrtle Beach north, and from Atlantic Florida southwards.
As far as ups and downs, there's a cool map that shows the variability of temperature around the world. North America has the values that extend furthest to the equator, but the high variation terminates at the coastal South:
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You consider Phoenix subtropical?
Yes, it's Subtropical Desert. It's just not Humid Subtropical. Our low temps range from 43° to 86°, never going below 29° and our highs range from 65° to 108°, never going below 44°, and we have Washingtonia, CIDP and Roystonea palms everywhere. If that's not Subtropical, than what is?
Both Savannah and Charleston always seemed about the same to me; both are historic southern cities in the same geographic area, and with the same vegetation. It's quite interesting that you were able to find strong preference of one over the other.
As far as the beaches, the Low Country beaches are the more "swampy" kind of subtropical, with all the Sea Island/tidal marsh network. The water clarity seems to get better from Myrtle Beach north, and from Atlantic Florida southwards.
As far as ups and downs, there's a cool map that shows the variability of temperature around the world. North America has the values that extend furthest to the equator, but the high variation terminates at the coastal South:
Yes as your graphic clearly shows, the South is the closest to the equator in the world with a large deviation in day to day temps. Look at China, Australia, Med region of Europe, South America, Africa, etc clearly shows we have the most up and down of any place on earth.
Those swings in temps in the Southeast make it very challenging to grow subtropical plants there. Every single winter is a crap shoot in which they don't know if their plants are going to be taken out by the polar vortex. This winter coming up could be the one to kill cidp's or orange trees on the gulf coast or SC and GA. Happened before and will happen again.
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