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View Poll Results: Which is headed towards being the king of Suburban mega-regions?
Orange County 65 55.08%
NOVA 53 44.92%
Voters: 118. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-08-2017, 03:51 PM
 
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I just wanted to see how this forum would rate the wealthiest and most expansive suburban regions in the nation and which areas are the closest to not only being a suburban paradise, but the closest to transitioning into a more urban and connected region.

Amenities-
Transportation-
Urbanity/Density-
Safety- (Likely the Same)
Affordability-
Shopping Districts/Malls-
Business Districts- Tysons vs. South Coast Metro
Diversity-
Wealth-
Economy- (Not including LA or Washington)
Future- (Which will have the greater population/ more influence on U.S economy)
Cities- Arlington/Alexandria vs. Anaheim/Santa Ana/ Irvine)


NOVA is defined as the 2.45 million people that live in Loudoun, Prince William, Arlington and Fairfax Counties as well as the independent cities in between. Orange County is Orange County, California which has 3.17 million.
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Old 08-08-2017, 06:03 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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I just wanted to see how this forum would rate the wealthiest and most expansive suburban regions in the nation and which areas are the closest to not only being a suburban paradise, but the closest to transitioning into a more urban and connected region.

Amenities-
Transportation-
Urbanity/Density-
Safety- (Likely the Same)
Affordability-
Shopping Districts/Malls-
Business Districts- Tysons vs. South Coast Metro
Diversity-
Wealth-
Economy- (Not including LA or Washington)
Future- (Which will have the greater population/ more influence on U.S economy)
Cities- Arlington/Alexandria vs. Anaheim/Santa Ana/ Irvine)


NOVA is defined as the 2.45 million people that live in Loudoun, Prince William, Arlington and Fairfax Counties as well as the independent cities in between. Orange County is Orange County, California which has 3.17 million.
Amenities- Both have tons but OC has Disneyland and actual beaches
Transportation- NOVA
Urbanity/Density- Depends on criteria but NOVA
Safety- close but NOVA
Affordability- I have no clue
Shopping Districts/Malls- only familiar with NOVA which has best shopping in DC metro area
Business Districts- NOVA - Tysons, Reston, Rosslyn, Ballston cooridor, plus Alexandria.
Diversity- NOVA
Wealth- OC but NOVA is next in line
Economy- NOVA, booming faster and literally poaching jobs from SoCal every year.
Future- (Which will have the greater population/ more influence on U.S economy) NOVA definitely
Cities- Arlington/Alexandria vs. Anaheim/Santa Ana/ Irvine) Not sure probably NOVA


Another category could be traffic, which in case of both may be among the top two or three suburban commutes in the US.

Also NOVA is about 2.8 million and counting now, unfortunately there's a pretty ambiguous definition of its boundaries.

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Old 08-08-2017, 06:11 PM
 
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Orange County, NOVA isn't even the best region in the DMV. It pretty much epitomizes suburban sprawl, Orange county less so.
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Old 08-08-2017, 06:19 PM
 
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Orange County, NOVA isn't even the best region in the DMV. It pretty much epitomizes suburban sprawl, Orange county less so.
Orange County, CA invented suburban sprawl...
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Old 08-08-2017, 06:21 PM
 
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Orange County, CA invented suburban sprawl...
That may explain why they seem to be better at. I guess my point is Orange county comes across as more unique than NOVA.
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Old 08-08-2017, 06:25 PM
 
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That may explain why they seem to be better at. I guess my point is Orange county comes across as more unique than NOVA.
Where in Orange County will you find any place as unique as Alexandria, VA?

Where is the subway transit in OC? How unique is that?
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Old 08-08-2017, 06:34 PM
 
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Where in Orange County will you find any place as unique as Alexandria, VA?

Where is the subway transit in OC? How unique is that?
Right I forgot CD is obsessed with PT. Alexandria is easily the best part of NOVA, but outside that meh. Maybe it's because I'm a native Marylander (We're taught to hate NOVA here) But outside Alexandria really nothing about NOVA is all that unique or special, it's just a decent place for families and that's about it.
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Old 08-08-2017, 06:40 PM
 
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Right I forgot CD is obsessed with PT. Alexandria is easily the best part of NOVA, but outside that meh. Maybe it's because I'm a native Marylander (We're taught to hate NOVA here) But outside Alexandria really nothing about NOVA is all that unique or special, it's just a decent place for families and that's about it.
I've already prefaced my initial post with OC taking it on amenities due to beaches, Disneyland etc, you could even throw weather in there.

Public transit was a part of the OP's post that I answered, NOVA crushes OC there, have a problem with that?

I'm a native Marylander too who grew up with the same thought process, but the reality is NOVA is the wealthiest, most diverse, best option for dining/shopping, best economy, better highway system, with two major airports etc etc area in suburban DC. The MD suburbs simply don't contain all that.

Now back to OC vs NOVA, there are many factors where both shines, another i'll mention for NOVA is whitewater rafting in Great Falls etc.

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Old 08-08-2017, 06:46 PM
 
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I've already prefaced my initial post with OC taking it on amenities due to beaches, Disneyland etc, you could even throw weather in there.

I'm a native Marylander too who grew up with the same thought process, but the reality is NOVA is the wealthiest, most diverse, best option for dining/shopping, best economy, better highway system, with two major airports etc etc in suburban DC. The MD suburbs simply don't contain all that.

Now back to OC vs NOVA, there are many factors where both shines, another i'll mention for NOVA is whitewater rafting in Great Falls etc.
Sorry I brought that up we should probably take MD suburbs of DC vs NOVA to a different thread. As for OC vs NOVA, I guess that best way I can sum it up is I like OC's location and amenities better.
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Old 08-08-2017, 06:51 PM
 
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Sorry I brought that up we should probably take MD suburbs of DC vs NOVA to a different thread. As for OC vs NOVA, I guess that best way I can sum it up is I like OC's location and amenities better.
Ok, I can easily accept that.
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