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Old 03-16-2023, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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These two cities are in the top 10 in N.A for metro population - actually very close to one another in population. They are also two of the fastest growing large urban areas on the continent.

From my experience in here, Toronto is often critiqued as being bland and generic and I don't see Dallas getting rousing reviews about its streetscapes either, so perhaps these are a good vs pairing for urban streetscapes and are closer to parity with one another than to others!? So - have at it! Toronto v Dallas urban streetscapes. Which is better? Any part of the urban area of each can be used, not just the central cores.
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Old 03-16-2023, 04:16 PM
 
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I've been to Canada, but not to Toronto, and have never been to Dallas. So, definitely not qualified to comment "which is better." However, not sure this is a fair comparison. Even though you say these two cities are very close in population, Toronto is the most important city in Canada, and Dallas is not nearly the most important in the US. Just stating a fact. Since Toronto is Canada's premier city, wouldn't one expect more?
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Old 03-16-2023, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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I've been to Canada, but not to Toronto, and have never been to Dallas. So, definitely not qualified to comment "which is better." However, not sure this is a fair comparison. Even though you say these two cities are very close in population, Toronto is the most important city in Canada, and Dallas is not nearly the most important in the US. Just stating a fact. Since Toronto is Canada's premier city, wouldn't one expect more?
Well Dallas has a larger GDP actually and they both have similar growth rates and Dallas is the largest metro region in the U.S South. Toronto is the largest metro in Canada and the largest city economy in the country but Canada only has 39 million people, not many more than Texas and a lot less than the U.S south. Montreal gets more acclaim for its urbanity than Toronto and they are also on a similar level culturally, so i'm not so sure this is an 'unfair' comparison. Toronto generally loses to cities like Chicago, Montreal, Philly, Boston and obviously NYC for urban streetscapes so I thought well - maybe Dallas?
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Old 03-16-2023, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Dallas by far
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Old 03-16-2023, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Dallas by far
Can you provide some meat to this though?
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Old 03-16-2023, 04:42 PM
 
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Yea I, kinda need an explanation on that too.. ..Dallas is fine don't get me wrong but I am lost as to how it could dominate Toronto in Urban Streetscapes.
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Old 03-16-2023, 04:45 PM
 
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Can you provide some meat to this though?
No, because it ain't true.
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Old 03-16-2023, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Yea I, kinda need an explanation on that too.. ..Dallas is fine don't get me wrong but I am lost as to how it could dominate Toronto in Urban Streetscapes.
I thought I provided an explanation though - similar size in population metro wise, Dallas has a larger GDP and is the largest MSA in the U.S south. These two cities are probably top 5 in metro area growth in Canada/U.S plus they were both incorporated as cities within 20 years of one another so they are similar in age.
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Old 03-16-2023, 04:51 PM
 
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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It doesn't take a lot of digging to see that Toronto has older and denser core neighborhoods, much more vertical density as Toronto is killing it in the skyline department by every measure, a much larger critical mass of people on the ground, and it annihilates Dallas on mass transit.

Dallas has some fine urban qualities and interesting neighborhoods with a lot of improvement over the last decade; but if we're being real it's also well known to be a sprawly auto orientated city in classic sunbelt fashion.

I can see how they can compare well in other dimensions at a metro area level.

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Old 03-16-2023, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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These two cities are in the top 10 in N.A for metro population - actually very close to one another in population. They are also two of the fastest growing large urban areas on the continent.

From my experience in here, Toronto is often critiqued as being bland and generic and I don't see Dallas getting rousing reviews about its streetscapes either, so perhaps these are a good vs pairing for urban streetscapes and are closer to parity with one another than to others!? So - have at it! Toronto v Dallas urban streetscapes. Which is better? Any part of the urban area of each can be used, not just the central cores.
Are...are you serious?

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