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Old 03-17-2023, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Dallas,Texas
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Great district! thanks for posting I had no idea this existed.

I was digging around more Dallas and really LOVE the Old Red courthouse.. It sort of reminds me of Toronto's Old City Hall

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.6518...7i16384!8i8192

I love history including U.S history and definitely want to check out dealey plaza and the texas schoolbook depository.
NP. I’m not sure if it’s even worth posting any other areas. I think Toronto wins IMO. Dallas’ neighborhoods look a lot more quaint as of right now.

Dealey Plaza is cool for the history buffs. I’ve been to the Sixth Floor Museum at the Old Schoolbook Depository. I enjoyed it…mainly because I love history too.

I can see that. Toronto’s old city hall is a very nice building.

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Old 03-20-2023, 04:03 PM
 
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Here are 3 cool recent drone videos of downtown Toronto





and a bonus video from last summer


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Old 03-20-2023, 04:36 PM
 
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While Dallas/Fort Worth has a higher population and GDP, these are still not comparable. Canada is stricter in how it measures metro area. Toronto is over 9 million in its region which is more similar to the American calculation is MSA than the Canadian study.

And on top of this, the city of Dallas is 1.3 million in population, Toronto is 2.8 million. Also no comparison. Why does the city measurement matter? Because when we compare urban streets capes, we aren’t comparing miles of suburbs. We are comparing urban cores.

So yeah, even on the data points OP described, these aren’t comparable. Not a fair comparison at all.
As with anytime A Canadian metro population brought up vs and American one. they are never comparing apples to apples.

this is the population and surface areas of the metro areas being compared here:


Toronto: 6,202,225 (CMA) in 5,905.71 km^2
Dallas: 7,637,387 (MSA) in 24,100 km^2

as you can see the surface area to get dallas to 7.6 Million is almost 5x larger than Toronto
and this is what all the GDP and other metrix use.

now however Toronto at a more similar surface area of 31,561.57 km^2 has a population 9,765,188
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Old 03-20-2023, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Here are 3 cool recent drone videos of downtown Toronto





and a bonus video from last summer

Nice vids but why on earth do they ruin it with their sappy music choices is just beyond me! Also a little too much focus on buildings and skylines and not enough on streetscapes.
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Old 03-20-2023, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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NP. I’m not sure if it’s even worth posting any other areas. I think Toronto wins IMO. Dallas’ neighborhoods look a lot more quaint as of right now.

Dealey Plaza is cool for the history buffs. I’ve been to the Sixth Floor Museum at the Old Schoolbook Depository. I enjoyed it…mainly because I love history too.

I can see that. Toronto’s old city hall is a very nice building.
Well i'm still interested in Dallas so i'll do some more exploration. Thanks for your contribution here. - it was appreciated!
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Old 03-20-2023, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Dallas,Texas
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Well i'm still interested in Dallas so i'll do some more exploration. Thanks for your contribution here. - it was appreciated!
I mean, I’ll show other areas just due to your interest. Still think Toronto is more robust ATM with neighborhoods outside of downtown Dallas looking more quaint. I’m sure you will notice that Bishop Arts, Deep Ellum, and Greenville Ave all have a similar overall look. In terms of having historic/older low rise brick/masonry buildings.

Deep Ellum - historic former freedman’s town now an entertainment district.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rG4Cqv...ature=youtu.be

West Village in Uptown Dallas — new urbanist mixed use development started in the late 90s.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OGhoYn...ature=youtu.be


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdFZSe...ature=youtu.be


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m7N8Va...ature=youtu.be

Lower Greenville - is a former streetcar Main Street from the 1920s. This is located within a historic single family area. Not much vertical/urban development allowed, other than probably on Greenville Ave itself. There are a few suburban structures along the street, but I’m sure I’ll be replaced over time. Many of the original structures still remain. The street also received a complete streets redo 5+ years ago.

0:50-4:11 is the main Lower Greenville strip with the complete streets redo. Other shops/restaurants 5:00-5:15 and another strip of shops/restaurants 6:00-7:00 with the Granada Theater.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EoBwRN...ature=youtu.be

Walking Tour of Lower Greenville


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1B1Dfu...ature=youtu.be


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Good driving tour of downtown, Uptown, and Deep Ellum taken in March 2023

Downtown start at 2:00

Uptown starts at 34:34

Uptown’s McKinney Ave (The area’s main thoroughfare) at 39:39

West Village in Uptown at 45:00-47:00

The Uptown area is served by the McKinney Ave Trolley (ridership 682,000+) which you can see passing by at 50:40

Deep Ellum at 57:00-1:07:00


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zNhJT2...ature=youtu.be

Last edited by Dallaz; 03-20-2023 at 10:05 PM.. Reason: Correcting typos, which I always seem to overlook lol
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Old 03-21-2023, 04:35 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Definitely Toronto. More walkable, better transit (including a real metro), more character, less parking in the core.
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Old 03-21-2023, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Hoboken, NJ
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As with anytime A Canadian metro population brought up vs and American one. they are never comparing apples to apples.

this is the population and surface areas of the metro areas being compared here:


Toronto: 6,202,225 (CMA) in 5,905.71 km^2
Dallas: 7,637,387 (MSA) in 24,100 km^2

as you can see the surface area to get dallas to 7.6 Million is almost 5x larger than Toronto
and this is what all the GDP and other metrix use.

now however Toronto at a more similar surface area of 31,561.57 km^2 has a population 9,765,188
Thank you for bringing this up, as you stated it's very difficult to compare US metro areas with other countries due to measurement methodologies. As a former 10-year resident of Dallas (city of, not suburbs), I am shocked that this wasn't more lopsided for Toronto. Toronto feels 2x as large as a city.

There are a lot of things to like about Dallas, and it's urbanity has improved over the years, but it is not (and likely never will be) as urban as Toronto.
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Old 03-21-2023, 06:57 PM
 
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Toronto, and it's not even close.
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Old 03-21-2023, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Buffalo, NY
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Toronto

Yonge-Dundas Square

Kensington Market/Chinatown

Queen Street West

Tracks Entering Union Station

Bloor Street

Toronto Harbor Ferry
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