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View Poll Results: Which Region Do You Perfer?
Midwest 119 50.00%
Southeast 119 50.00%
Voters: 238. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-17-2017, 02:20 AM
 
Location: Paris
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I disagree. Both regions are littered with actual tiny towns and even nearly deserted places. Charleston and Savannah are on the smaller side as metros (more so Savannah), but they aren't "tiny."


Actually that ambiance extends well beyond their historic districts to outlying areas and the coast. Charleston and Savannah are unique cities in a distinctive geographical region (the Lowcountry).
The thread is about two regions with a combined population of around 150,000,000.... Yeah, they're pretty tiny for the sake of this discussion so saying they're the deciding factor like so many are doing is really strange/laughable to me (not saying you said that), we'll have to agree to disagree here.

All places have an ambiance/culture to them, I believe many in the past few pages of the thread are seriously overselling that of these two cities will playing down those for the others (again, around 150,000,000) and it looks desperate.

Still, how about some pics to illustrate all of this grandeur that is impossible to find anywhere else? (not just aimed at you)

 
Old 10-17-2017, 06:22 AM
 
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The thread is about two regions with a combined population of around 150,000,000.... Yeah, they're pretty tiny for the sake of this discussion so saying they're the deciding factor like so many are doing is really strange/laughable to me (not saying you said that), we'll have to agree to disagree here.
It's pretty silly to say they're "tiny" based on the vastness of both regions. By that standard, one could also call Omaha or Baton Rouge "tiny," at least compared to Charleston (if going by MSA). Furthermore, if you're only considering the historic districts/downtowns of both cities, it should be kept in mind that they are larger than those of several other larger cities today because they played much more prominent roles historically. And you can dismiss them by calling them "tiny," but apparently those "tiny" places pack a pretty heavy punch when you look at the millions upon millions of visitors each receives annually. When it comes to tourism by the numbers, Charleston's and Savannah's peers include larger metros like St. Louis, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Minneapolis, etc. http://resonanceco-uploads.s3.amazon...x-2017-2.0.pdf (p. 24).

I'll let others answer as to whether or not they consider those cities the deciding factor between both regions.

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All places have an ambiance/culture to them, I believe many in the past few pages of the thread are seriously overselling that of these two cities will playing down those for the others (again, around 150,000,000) and it looks desperate.
It seems kind of desperate to then go to the other extreme and say "all places have an ambiance/culture to them." Unless you believe Gary and East St. Louis are on even footing with Charleston and Savannah when it comes to this...I dunno, maybe you do.
 
Old 10-17-2017, 07:06 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Shakeesha View Post
I agree, there are no cities with grandeur like those in the Midwest. I also like the warmer weather, and nicer people.

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Originally Posted by Bert_from_back_East View Post
While most cities in the Midwest are great places to live and raise a family, there are no cities in that region of the country that provide the same level of colonial grandeur and ambiance as Charleston and Savannah.

Case closed.
And the southern cities don't have 1920's era skyscrapers like:

The ten 1920's-era skyscrapers seen in this Google streetview in downtown Detroit
https://www.google.com/maps/place/W+...!4d-83.0474165

The two 1920's-era skysrcapers seen in this Google streetview of the New Center in Detroit
https://www.google.com/maps/place/W+...7!4d-83.076901
 
Old 10-17-2017, 07:26 AM
 
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And the southern cities don't have 1920's era skyscrapers like:

The ten 1920's-era skyscrapers seen in this Google streetview in downtown Detroit
https://www.google.com/maps/place/W+...!4d-83.0474165

The two 1920's-era skysrcapers seen in this Google streetview of the New Center in Detroit
https://www.google.com/maps/place/W+...7!4d-83.076901
Detroit in its heyday was a force to be reckoned with. Most of those skyscrapers look to be Art Deco and while I don't think there are any cities in the Southeast that has such a collection of Art Deco skyscrapers, there is one Southern city I can think of that's at least worth mentioning in comparison: Tulsa.
 
Old 10-17-2017, 07:54 AM
 
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So you agree that there’s no Charleston, Savannah, or Mobile in the Midwest? Ok cool.

And the Southeast has way better scenery, it’s not even close.
Stop it.

Sleeping Bear Dunes National Lakeshore, Michigan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7534oOjBGE

Porcupine Mountain Wilderness State Park, Michigan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URN66W9xMCs

Hocking Hills State Park, Ohio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOT2SgmNWEw
 
Old 10-17-2017, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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Stop it.

Sleeping Bear Dunes National Lakeshore, Michigan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7534oOjBGE

Porcupine Mountain Wilderness State Park, Michigan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URN66W9xMCs

Hocking Hills State Park, Ohio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOT2SgmNWEw
Still not even close.
 
Old 10-17-2017, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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Honestly, it has more to do with whether or not you don't mind snow and cold in the winter or extremely hot and humid summers.

But anyway....

Rasing A Family
Midwest.

Colleges/Universities
Midwest.

Quality of Life
Midwest.

Things To Do
Midwest.

Scenery
Midwest by a long shot.

Economic Future Decades Later
Very hard to predict.

Where Would You Rather Live
Midwest.
 
Old 10-17-2017, 08:11 AM
 
Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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Still not even close.
having spent decades living in both the midwest and the south east, yeah, closer than a lot of people will admit.
 
Old 10-17-2017, 08:21 AM
 
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Honestly, it has more to do with whether or not you don't mind snow and cold in the winter or extremely hot and humid summers.
There are parts of the Southeast that routinely get snow in winter and do not have extremely hot and humid summers.

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Scenery
Midwest by a long shot.
Objectively, in terms of variety especially, I do not see how the Midwest wins this one.
 
Old 10-17-2017, 08:50 AM
 
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I'm not sure how you could argue that the South is booming in population because of natural change. The fertility rate is still only at replacement level, if that.
It's still above replacement level in even the worst Rust Belt cities, but somehow Atlanta doesn't get significant growth from that? Come on, it's pretty easy to verify.
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