Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
NoVa, no competition honestly. The only thing NC has over NoVa is it’s cheap and less traffic.
The Triangle is literally NoVa's competition here. The Triangle also has better universities than NoVa (although you realistically can't divorce NoVa from the larger DC region when it comes to that).
I know some people want to just dismiss the Triangle outright simply because it's smaller, but the fact that it can go toe to toe with metros several times larger when it comes to these big economic development deals should not be taken lightly. That region is doing a lot of things right without having the huge built-in advantage of being part of the national capital region.
The Triangle is literally NoVa's competition here. The Triangle also has better universities than NoVa (although you realistically can't divorce NoVa from the larger DC region when it comes to that).
I know some people want to just dismiss the Triangle outright simply because it's smaller, but the fact that it can go toe to toe with metros several times larger when it comes to these big economic development deals should not be taken lightly. That region is doing a lot of things right without having the huge built-in advantage of being part of the national capital region.
This and I'm from NoVa, but now live in the Triangle area. Apple can get exactly what it wants and needs in the Triangle, all with a lower cost of living and less hectic lifestyle for their employees, which will make for some happy workers. Something in the size of 5000-10000 employees once it's fully operable years down the road, would make for a really nice fit in the Triangle. We'll be able to meet their demands and they will be a big player in this area...in NoVA not as much.
Throughout the country, Apple seems less concerned with having flashy urban campuses or transit-connectivity and could really create what they want in a much more efficient way in the Triangle. The talent is there even if it isn't as deep a well as in Northern VA. And, as far as progressiveness, the Triangle has its own vibrant cultural umbrella and isn't a bastion of the less compatible viewpoints found elsewhere in NC. It could definitely work and it might be a better fit/bang for buck than in NoVA.
NoVA makes more sense for any corporate HQ relocation; NoVA is part of the DC metro which comes with the powerhouse of government, access to big city amenities, multiple major airports, access to an extremely talented and cultured workforce, within close proximity to other major cities (Baltimore, Philly, etc.), part of the NE corridor, etc... Not sure how RTU would top any of those..
NoVA makes more sense for any corporate HQ relocation; NoVA is part of the DC metro which comes with the powerhouse of government, access to big city amenities, multiple major airports, access to an extremely talented and cultured workforce, within close proximity to other major cities (Baltimore, Philly, etc.), part of the NE corridor, etc... Not sure how RTU would top any of those..
I'd agree with you if Apple was relocating its corporate headquarters but that's not what's happening.
Hard to tell, but it doesn't look big enough to hold 10K employees? Not sure exactly what site, though.
The sites being considered are in your link. They are the tracts south/east of 540 and to either side of Davis Drive. Those sites are clearly large enough to house 5-10,000 employees if the development model doesn't include acres and acres of surface parking lot like earlier developed campuses. Also, I think that the tracts on the other side of the lakes from Cisco are available for expansion.
I agree with you that RTU couldn't top any of those. If you meant RDU, probably not either, since that's just our airport. RTP and the Triangle region of NC as a whole offer many of those amenities, albeit on a smaller scale and without Washington on the other side of the river.
The sites being considered are in your link. They are the tracts south/east of 540 and to either side of Davis Drive. Those sites are clearly large enough to house 5-10,000 employees if the development model doesn't include acres and acres of surface parking lot like earlier developed campuses. Also, I think that the tracts on the other side of the lakes from Cisco are available for expansion.
Thanks. Hadn't noticed the cleared lots to the south, it sounded like it was only the wooded part immediately to the south of the Cisco buildings.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.