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Old 05-22-2018, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Originally Posted by TasteofSourCherry View Post
I just crunched the numbers, Houston MSA went for Trump (1,010,875 votes cast for Trump compared to 991,121 cast for Clinton).

Breakdown of the results by county:

Trump | Clinton

1,010,875 | 991,121

Harris: 544,960 | 706,471
Fort Bend: 117,212 | 134,475
Montgomery: 150,188 | 45,744
Brazoria: 72,653 | 43,075
Galveston: 73,566 | 45,503
Liberty: 18,856 | 4,851
Waller: 10,525 | 5,744
Chambers: 13,278 | 2,939
Austin: 9,637 | 2,319

https://www.politico.com/2016-electi...esident/texas/

To be fair it was very even. I was expecting Houston MSA to be more red. I would add that Trump is not a normal Republican, so even 50-50 indicates the area is strongly right-wing.
What is your logic behind that?
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Old 05-22-2018, 08:11 PM
 
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Indianapolis currently has a democrat mayor, democrat majority city-county council, just passed a transit referendum, and is home to a large gay pride festival. Indianapolis voted 64% for Obama in 2008, 61% for Obama in 2012, and 62% for Clinton in 2016. The congressman representing the largest district in Indianapolis is a Muslim democrat, only the second Muslim to be elected to Congress. Please explain which of these empirical stats provides a "break-even or gains for conservatives/Republicans."
Pretty impressive, considering Indy makes up a huge share of its metro, compared to most other metros.
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Old 05-22-2018, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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Indianapolis is in Marion county, 1 county in a 11 country MSA.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian...ropolitan_area

This is the results on a county by county level of the MSA:

https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/re...states/indiana

Only 1 out of the 11 counties making up the Indianapolis MSA went to HRC.

I think it's safe to say that area is very conservative.
Thread title says city. It is safe to say most every city is more blue, and its suburbs more red. For those reasons, I am rejecting your argument on grounds of irrelevance.
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Old 05-22-2018, 08:28 PM
 
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Thread title says city. It is safe to say most every city is more blue, and its suburbs more red. For those reasons, I am rejecting your argument on grounds of irrelevance.
It's not safe to say that at all.

All counties in LA MSA and the Bay Area went blue. Miami MSA as well. I haven't looked but almost definitely NYC, Boston, and DC MSA as well.
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Old 05-22-2018, 08:29 PM
 
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What is your logic behind that?
HRC was a moderate candidate whereas Trump was extremely to the right like we haven't seen since Goldwater. Obviously, that's something to take into consideration when you have roughly 50% voting for an extremist and another 50% voting for a moderate.
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Old 05-22-2018, 08:29 PM
 
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Thread title says city. It is safe to say most every city is more blue, and its suburbs more red. For those reasons, I am rejecting your argument on grounds of irrelevance.
If you read the entire OP, the poster conflates cities and metros (a common mistake in c-d). So I guess everybody wins!
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Old 05-22-2018, 08:46 PM
 
Location: South Padre Island, TX
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HRC was a moderate candidate whereas Trump was extremely to the right like we haven't seen since Goldwater. Obviously, that's something to take into consideration when you have roughly 50% voting for an extremist and another 50% voting for a moderate.
Trump is a bit more populist/anti-establishment compared to other Republicans. Nothing like a Ted Cruz.
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Old 05-22-2018, 09:28 PM
 
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Phoenix and Tampa - two large cities that went for Trump in 2016.
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Old 05-23-2018, 05:42 AM
 
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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It's not safe to say that at all.

All counties in LA MSA and the Bay Area went blue. Miami MSA as well. I haven't looked but almost definitely NYC, Boston, and DC MSA as well.
Boston, all of the Mass counties went Clinton. The New Hampshire counties went Trump. New York, Staten Island, which is a borough within NYC, went Trump. So too did Suffolk County (Long Island). Washington, the more exurban counties went Trump.
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Old 05-23-2018, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Atlanta metro (Cobb County)
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Indianapolis
Cincinnati
Sacramento
Sacramento is only conservative in comparison to nearby San Francisco. It is well to the left of the nation as a whole, and compared to most major Sunbelt metros. Agreed on the other two areas, although the urban cores of Indianapolis and Cincinnati are rather liberal these days.
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