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Old 07-05-2018, 04:42 PM
 
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San Jose
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Old 07-09-2018, 06:00 AM
 
Location: Windsor Ontario/Colchester Ontario
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No poll this time?
Lol, there’s a reason for that
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Old 07-09-2018, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Taos NM
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Easily San Jose for me.
Why did Denver easily beat San Jose but San Jose easily beat St. Louis? Is St. Louis that bad?
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Old 07-09-2018, 08:45 PM
 
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Why did Denver easily beat San Jose but San Jose easily beat St. Louis? Is St. Louis that bad?
Apparently people read stats and look up pictures and vote.

Obviously I prefer St Louis because that is where I choose to live for many reasons. San Jose is In a totally different league from St Louis and much of the US economically. The natural environment creates a totally different culture along with its economy.
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Old 07-09-2018, 11:01 PM
 
Location: San Jose, CA
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San Jose is a city people love to hate.

Lived in San jose for 15+ years, visited St Louis twice.


1. Population: San Jose
2. Economy: No contest at all. San Jose
3. Downtown: Toss up.
4. Diversity: No question. San Jose
5. Transportation: St Louis
6. Scenery: San Jose. 9 out of 10 people will find San Jose area more scenic.
7. Weather: No question. San Jose
8. Shopping: San Jose

While it appears that SJ has beat St. Louis handily, this list is missing a very important factor: cost of living.
San Jose is so expensive nowadays as to be out of option for a large majority of Americans
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Old 07-10-2018, 12:31 AM
 
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St. Louis. I'll always go for the central city.
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Old 07-10-2018, 09:51 AM
 
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People are so jealous of San Jose. That's the problem.
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Old 07-10-2018, 10:24 AM
 
Location: 0.83 Atmospheres
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Why did Denver easily beat San Jose but San Jose easily beat St. Louis? Is St. Louis that bad?
First, Denver doesn’t easily beat San Jose. I like San Jose. It’s a nice city.

I’ve spent a lot of time in STL over the past few years. I was going once a quarter for two years and now get there annually. I don’t like the weather, I don’t think the downtown is very vibrant. It feels quite economically depressed compared to many other areas of the country. The outdoors activities seem pretty much relegated to golf or ‘going to the lake’. The midwestern scenery isn’t my cup of tea. People love the suburbs too much in that area as well.
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Old 07-10-2018, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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Why did Denver easily beat San Jose but San Jose easily beat St. Louis? Is St. Louis that bad?
St. Louis doesn't compare well with these cities. Denver and San Jose are not crime ridden, run down, or economically depressed. What good is having a dense urban fabric when it is not vibrant and losing population?
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Old 07-10-2018, 12:05 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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San Jose overall. Where St. Louis does well is in its historic architecture and cultural institutions as well as the cost of living. A lot of the mid-sized cities that have popped up in comparisons versus San Jose do well in many of those departments, but they also do well in terms of having a strong downtown and vibrant close-in neighborhoods.

Unfortunately, St. Louis’s downtown isn’t the greatest right now and a good deal of its historic architecture and walkable neighborhoods especially in the northern parts of the city have been pretty thoroughly ravaged. A strong downtown may be able to expand development back out to those neighborhoods near downtown, but St. Louis doesn’t seem to be having as large of a downtown boom as many of the other industrial older northern cities have. San Jose gets my vote for this one, though I don’t put St. Louis that far behind overall.
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