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I completely understand this. Not even elected officials are immune from systemic racism as evident recently in OR where door to door campaigning resulted in police being called on an elected official who was campaigning for re-election.
However, this should not result in capitulating to hate and discrimination through our own decision making. This would be true for any group who finds themselves marginalized in society. I'm just saying that I wouldn't allow others to limit me based on their narrative. If I were rich, I'd go to where I would want to go.
Can you acknowledge that those negative experiences help shape the “where I want to go”. I’m black and upper-middle class. The wealthiest town in my state is one of my suburbs, and I could easily afford to live there. I have no desire to do so. My preferences are shaped by my experiences.
That’s not to say that I’ve segregated myself. I still live in a predominantly white neighborhood, in a predominantly white city, but there’s enough diversity in my area to make me feel comfortable.
More on this business district, which is in a lower to upper middle class, mostly black, but diverse part of the community: Springfield Avenue Partnership
So, it is an area not only diverse in terms of the residents, but in terms of the businesses, while having a substantial to high presence of black residents and owned businesses. All within a walkable district as well.
Can you acknowledge that those negative experiences help shape the “where I want to go”. I’m black and upper-middle class. The wealthiest town in my state is one of my suburbs, and I could easily afford to live there. I have no desire to do so. My preferences are shaped by my experiences.
That’s not to say that I’ve segregated myself. I still live in a predominantly white neighborhood, in a predominantly white city, but there’s enough diversity in my area to make me feel comfortable.
You also may find urban/city neighborhoods where you have a substantial to high black percentage, but are at least solidly middle class. So, that is a good point that it doesn’t necessarily have to be a suburb or a (stereo)typical place.
You also may find urban/city neighborhoods where you have a substantial to high black percentage, but are at least solidly middle class. So, that is a good point that it doesn’t necessarily have to be a suburb or a (stereo)typical place.
I would live in Harlem, Ft Greene, Bed Stuy, Prospect Heights in NYC or Trinidad in DC, at my current income level. If I were actually rich, I would only consider Ft Greene. My other favorite black neighborhood is Kenwood, in Chicago, but there are better values in the city, in my price range.
I completely understand this. Not even elected officials are immune from systemic racism as evident recently in OR where door to door campaigning resulted in police being called on an elected official who was campaigning for re-election.
However, this should not result in capitulating to hate and discrimination through our own decision making. This would be true for any group who finds themselves marginalized in society. I'm just saying that I wouldn't allow others to limit me based on their narrative. If I were rich, I'd go to where I would want to go.
I get your point but.I think (maybe others also) ,people would want to not have to feel uncomfortable or be around people that fit them culturally.Rich neighborhoods are almost exclusively white so if you can have that in a black wealthy neighborhood and you are black,why not?I also keep asking the question ;"why don't wealthy white people move in black neighborhoods"?They move in black poor neighborhoods and fix up older homes causing gentrification so why is it such a rarity for whites to want to have their kids live in among blacks who are wealthy?
My point is the choice to integrate is always on black people.I think many black people segregate because they are tired of this notion where blacks are always the ones making concessions.
Moving where ever you can afford is the right of all Americans but if moving somewhere among people who may or may accept you or like some blacks who have a need to be legitimized by white people is just not a look.
So if a black student goes to a black college, is that a problem too? Because I went to a black college and I learned so much from everyone there. Diversity isn't just about black and white. It's about people coming from different backgrounds, different countries, and different incomes. you can live in a black neighborhood and it can still be diverse
So True!
Wish people would stop putting a label on cities and places where blacks should be and live!
Maybe you wouldn't be bothered living in a place where you might gets stares or can't find a barber/stylist or won't see some of your favorite artists stop on tour or whatever, but don't be mad at Black folks who would.
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