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Old 04-12-2019, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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Urban Area is NOT equal to Metropolitan Statistical Area nor is it equal to CSA. I don't know where people are getting these ideas. Also, this is obviously their own Urban Area calculations and the US Census does provide their own Urban Area calculations
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Old 04-12-2019, 04:14 PM
 
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How is Philly not in this list
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Old 04-12-2019, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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Here are the 2017 Urban Area populations from the US Census:

1. NYC: 18,969,794 people
2. Los Angeles: 12,564,245 people
3. Chicago: 8,688,864 people
4. Miami: 5,948,057 people
5. Dallas: 5,618,620 people
6. Philadelphia: 5,529,307 people
7. Houston: 5,507,172 people
8. Washington DC: 4,957,133 people
9. Atlanta: 4,894,216 people
10. Boston: 4,384,673 people
11. Phoenix: 3,929,596 people
12. Detroit: 3,733,036 people
13. San Francisco: 3,497,079 people
14. Seattle: 3,333,028 people
15. San Diego: 3,136,669 people
16. Minneapolis: 2,796,036 people
17. Tampa: 2,618,101 people
18. Denver: 2,605,031 people
19. Baltimore: 2,275,937 people
20. St. Louis: 2,161,737 people
21. Riverside, CA: 2,045,567 people
22. Las Vegas: 2,040,011 people
23. Portland: 1,989,163 people
24. San Antonio: 1,946,610 people
25. Sacramento: 1,821,853 people
26. San Jose: 1,782,854 people
27. Cleveland: 1,765,779 people
28. Pittsburgh: 1,737,262 people
29. Orlando: 1,675,439 people
30. Cincinnati: 1,656,015 people
31. Indianapolis: 1,578,776 people
32. Kansas City: 1,577,744 people
33. Austin: 1,574,844 people
34. Columbus, OH: 1,474,650 people
35. Virginia Beach: 1,469,089 people
36. Charlotte: 1,407,793 people
37. Milwaukee: 1,390,634 people
38. Providence: 1,199,504 people
39. Jacksonville: 1,130,221 people
40. Salt Lake City: 1,092,661 people
41. Memphis: 1,074,348 people
42. Nashville: 1,058,818 people
43. Richmond, VA: 1,004,150 people
44. Louisville: 1,003,686 people
45. Raleigh: 999,001 people
46. New Orleans: 957,680 people
47. Bridgeport: 950,365 people
48. Buffalo: 936,829 people
49. Hartford, CT: 925,845 people
50. Oklahoma City: 923,927 people

Changes of the above urban areas, 2010 to 2017
1. Houston: +1,166,552 people
2. Dallas: +1,133,647 people
3. Atlanta: +1,002,058 people
4. NYC: +886,073 people
5. Phoenix: +855,655 people
6. Washington DC: +700,807 people
7. Miami: +669,963 people
8. Los Angeles: +554,709 people
9. Las Vegas: +544,278 people
10. Austin: +543,740 people
11. Denver: +537,519 people
12. San Antonio: +490,154 people
13. Charlotte: +481,142 people
14. Tampa: +405,387 people
15. Chicago: +398,015 people
16. Seattle: +397,780 people
17. Orlando: +379,647 people
18. San Diego: +378,934 people
19. Minneapolis: +358,071 people
20. Raleigh: +346,699 people
21. Sacramento: +338,809 people
22. Boston: +300,120 people
23. Indianapolis: +297,216 people
24. Riverside, CA: +287,582 people
25. Philadelphia: +277,986 people
26. Columbus, OH: +269,961 people
27. Nashville: +259,077 people
28. San Francisco: +242,429 people
29. Portland: +214,871 people
30. San Jose: +203,403 people
31. New Orleans: +193,740 people
32. Jacksonville: +190,559 people
33. Kansas City: +167,027 people
34. Salt Lake City: +151,796 people
35. Cincinnati: +141,096 people
36. Oklahoma City: +130,167 people
37. Baltimore: +129,982 people
38. Richmond, VA: +120,565 people
39. Louisville: +104,688 people
40. Memphis: +103,357 people
41. St. Louis: +83,513 people
42. Milwaukee: +72,450 people
43. Cleveland: +71,914 people
44. Pittsburgh: +49,767 people
45. Hartford, CT: +46,368 people
46. Bridgeport: +41,142 people
47. Virginia Beach: +26,383 people
48. Providence: +24,263 people
49. Detroit: +8,939 people
50. Buffalo: -4,929 people
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Old 04-12-2019, 04:48 PM
 
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The title clearly stated URBAN AREAS why does everyone keep bringing up CSA.

IndieIndy Philly was previously 11 followed by ATL and DC but the combination of DC and Bmore pushed Philly to 12.

Interesting that the top 3 lost UA population from previous reports.
Miami, SF and Boston are lower also.
Well, for starters, 9.2 million is not Chicago’s UA population. Chicago’s UA population is more like 8.6 million.
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Old 04-12-2019, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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Well, for starters, 9.2 million is not Chicago’s UA population. Chicago’s UA population is more like 8.6 million.
All of the numbers are off compared to what the Census counts. For example, NYC's in this source is listed at 21 million but the US Census has it as just under 19 million - difference of over 2 million people. La's in the original source is 15.4 million - the US Census has it at 12.5 million - off by almost 3 million people.
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Old 04-12-2019, 07:28 PM
 
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Demographia's Urban Areas for North America, 2019:

01. New York: 21,045,000

02. Mexico City: 20,395,000

03. Los Angeles: 15,440,000

04. Chicago: 9,275,000

05. Washington DC-Baltimore: 7,515,000

06. Boston: 7,130,000

07. Toronto: 6,630,000

08. Dallas/Fort Worth: 6,550,000

09. Houston: 6,315,000

10. San Francisco Bay Area: 6,100,000

11. Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 5,955,000

12. Philadelphia: 5,780,000

13. Atlanta: 5,580,000

14. Guadalajara: 4,870,000

15. Phoenix: 4,480,000

16. Monterrey: 4,345,000

17. Detroit: 4,050,000

18. Seattle: 3,715,000

19. Montreal: 3,600,000

20. San Diego: 3,175,000

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Old 04-12-2019, 09:59 PM
 
Location: North Raleigh x North Sacramento
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Here are the 2017 Urban Area populations from the US Census:

1. NYC: 18,969,794 people
2. Los Angeles: 12,564,245 people
3. Chicago: 8,688,864 people
4. Miami: 5,948,057 people
5. Dallas: 5,618,620 people
6. Philadelphia: 5,529,307 people
7. Houston: 5,507,172 people
8. Washington DC: 4,957,133 people
9. Atlanta: 4,894,216 people
10. Boston: 4,384,673 people
11. Phoenix: 3,929,596 people
12. Detroit: 3,733,036 people
13. San Francisco: 3,497,079 people
14. Seattle: 3,333,028 people
15. San Diego: 3,136,669 people
16. Minneapolis: 2,796,036 people
17. Tampa: 2,618,101 people
18. Denver: 2,605,031 people
19. Baltimore: 2,275,937 people
20. St. Louis: 2,161,737 people
21. Riverside, CA: 2,045,567 people
22. Las Vegas: 2,040,011 people
23. Portland: 1,989,163 people
24. San Antonio: 1,946,610 people
25. Sacramento: 1,821,853 people
26. San Jose: 1,782,854 people
27. Cleveland: 1,765,779 people
28. Pittsburgh: 1,737,262 people
29. Orlando: 1,675,439 people
30. Cincinnati: 1,656,015 people
31. Indianapolis: 1,578,776 people
32. Kansas City: 1,577,744 people
33. Austin: 1,574,844 people
34. Columbus, OH: 1,474,650 people
35. Virginia Beach: 1,469,089 people
36. Charlotte: 1,407,793 people
37. Milwaukee: 1,390,634 people
38. Providence: 1,199,504 people
39. Jacksonville: 1,130,221 people
40. Salt Lake City: 1,092,661 people
41. Memphis: 1,074,348 people
42. Nashville: 1,058,818 people
43. Richmond, VA: 1,004,150 people
44. Louisville: 1,003,686 people
45. Raleigh: 999,001 people
46. New Orleans: 957,680 people
47. Bridgeport: 950,365 people
48. Buffalo: 936,829 people
49. Hartford, CT: 925,845 people
50. Oklahoma City: 923,927 people

Changes of the above urban areas, 2010 to 2017
1. Houston: +1,166,552 people
2. Dallas: +1,133,647 people
3. Atlanta: +1,002,058 people
4. NYC: +886,073 people
5. Phoenix: +855,655 people
6. Washington DC: +700,807 people
7. Miami: +669,963 people
8. Los Angeles: +554,709 people
9. Las Vegas: +544,278 people
10. Austin: +543,740 people
11. Denver: +537,519 people
12. San Antonio: +490,154 people
13. Charlotte: +481,142 people
14. Tampa: +405,387 people
15. Chicago: +398,015 people
16. Seattle: +397,780 people
17. Orlando: +379,647 people
18. San Diego: +378,934 people
19. Minneapolis: +358,071 people
20. Raleigh: +346,699 people
21. Sacramento: +338,809 people
22. Boston: +300,120 people
23. Indianapolis: +297,216 people
24. Riverside, CA: +287,582 people
25. Philadelphia: +277,986 people
26. Columbus, OH: +269,961 people
27. Nashville: +259,077 people
28. San Francisco: +242,429 people
29. Portland: +214,871 people
30. San Jose: +203,403 people
31. New Orleans: +193,740 people
32. Jacksonville: +190,559 people
33. Kansas City: +167,027 people
34. Salt Lake City: +151,796 people
35. Cincinnati: +141,096 people
36. Oklahoma City: +130,167 people
37. Baltimore: +129,982 people
38. Richmond, VA: +120,565 people
39. Louisville: +104,688 people
40. Memphis: +103,357 people
41. St. Louis: +83,513 people
42. Milwaukee: +72,450 people
43. Cleveland: +71,914 people
44. Pittsburgh: +49,767 people
45. Hartford, CT: +46,368 people
46. Bridgeport: +41,142 people
47. Virginia Beach: +26,383 people
48. Providence: +24,263 people
49. Detroit: +8,939 people
50. Buffalo: -4,929 people
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Old 04-12-2019, 10:41 PM
 
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All of the numbers are off compared to what the Census counts. For example, NYC's in this source is listed at 21 million but the US Census has it as just under 19 million - difference of over 2 million people. La's in the original source is 15.4 million - the US Census has it at 12.5 million - off by almost 3 million people.
According to Wiki 2017 estimates
LA County: 10,163,507
Orange County: 3,190,400
Ventura County: 854,223
Riverside County: 2,423,266
San Bernardino County: 2,140,096 (2016)

Total: 18,771,492

This is the true Greater LA region. I highly disagree with any statistic that doesn't put these 5 counties together, and I wouldn't even be entirely opposed to adding in Santa Barbara County. If its 446,170 people are added, that's a total of 19,217,662 and I don't think that's too far of a stretch.

The NJ counties of Bergen, Middlesex, Essex, Hudson, Monmouth, Union, Passaic, Morris, Mercer, Somerset, Sussex, Hunterdon, Warren make 6,532,699.

NYC plus the NY counties of Nassau, Suffolk, Westchester, Orange, Rockland, Putnam, Ulster, Dutchess, Sullivan and Columbia of make 13,496,252.

The CT counties of Fairfield, New Haven, and Litchfield make 1,992,533.

The PA counties of Monroe, Pike, Carbon, Lehigh, and Northampton make 957,489.

That makes the NYC Metro 22,978,973.

So actually if the regions are expanded to their absolute fringes, the populations become larger.
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Old 04-12-2019, 10:56 PM
 
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Philadelphia MSA

DE Counties (Kent, New Castle): 728,181
MD Counties (Cecil): 102,746
NJ Counties (Atlantic, Burlington, Camden, Cape May, Cumberland, Gloucester, Salem): 1,916,466
PA Counties (Berks, Bucks, Chester, Delaware, Montgomery, Philadelphia): 4,508,356

That gives Philadelphia/Delaware Valley 7,255,749. So again, higher. I know it's not the same as urban area to say by county. But this shows how the discrepancy is created when we look at county-wide stats instead of going into minute details of urban areas.
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Old 04-13-2019, 12:33 AM
 
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It's not accurate: SJ urban pop. is 1.938,000 for 2017. 1,782,000 was in 2010.
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