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Old 04-19-2019, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Tampa
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The Twin Cities is the coldest metro and in probably the worst location in the midwest. Yet it continues to add 35,000 - 45,000 people every year. What is it about the Twin Cities that separates itself from other metro's in the midwest?
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Old 04-19-2019, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Edmonds, WA
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Jobs. High quality of life. Decent affordability. Non-Rust Belt.

Thank Scandinavia and its lasting influence on Minnesota.
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Old 04-19-2019, 07:03 PM
 
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The Twin Cities is the coldest metro and in probably the worst location in the midwest. Yet it continues to add 35,000 - 45,000 people every year. What is it about the Twin Cities that separates itself from other metro's in the midwest?
I don't know this, for sure, but perhaps there are a lot of people from Minnesota moving to their only large metro area. There really isn't another city in Minnesota that would be a draw. Some other Midwestern states, have more than one metro area that draws people.

Before people try to say Rochester is a draw...I don't think so. Maybe if you're an MD or an RN, but otherwise, no.
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Old 04-19-2019, 08:33 PM
 
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The Twin Cities is the coldest metro and in probably the worst location in the midwest. Yet it continues to add 35,000 - 45,000 people every year. What is it about the Twin Cities that separates itself from other metro's in the midwest?
Looks like you are new around here. If you look into many of the forums here you will see that there is a significant number of people for whom cold winter weather is not a dealbreaker when choosing a place to move to. Also, what do you mean by "worst location" in the Midwest?

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Old 04-19-2019, 08:35 PM
 
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Part of it is the metro's sheer size. Columbus and Indianapolis are growing faster, albeit not by much, but start off from a lower base.
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Old 04-19-2019, 08:40 PM
 
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Looks like you are new around here. If you look into many of the forums here you will see that there is a significant number of people for whom cold winter weather is not a dealbreaker when choosing a place to move to. Also, what do you mean by "worst location" in the Midwest?

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It's an isolated location so by worse that's what I mean and it's insanely cold. I do believe some people would never move there due to it hitting negative 30 actual temperature like it did during the polar vortex this winter..
Its really just in the middle of nowhere. Not much scenery. No ocean, no mountains, no tropical weather. Its location doesn't offer much in comparison to many other metro areas.
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Old 04-19-2019, 08:42 PM
 
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Part of it is the metro's sheer size. Columbus and Indianapolis are growing faster, albeit not by much, but start off from a lower base.
Not overall population gains. The Twin Cities gains more then 10,000 more people a year then then those other metros. Thats pretty significantly.
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Old 04-19-2019, 08:56 PM
 
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Not overall population gains. The Twin Cities gains more then 10,000 more people a year then then those other metros. Thats pretty significantly.
The Twin Cities also have a much larger population and natural increase, which relies largely on population size, tends to be a significant source of population increase for US metros. Hence why the Twin Cities' population advantage is a very crucial part in its population growth compared to all other Midwestern metros. Plus, despite being notably smaller tha MSP, Columbus and Indianapolis, at over two million, are major US metros. Not like we are talking about tiny suburbs where a thousand more people is a whole percentage.
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Old 04-19-2019, 09:12 PM
 
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Long story short - Minneapolis has higher birth rate than most places and the lowest death rate. Couple that with having positive net domestic migration and it's basically why.

Chicago MSA in 2016 had nearly 240,000 people move to it from outside of its MSA which was more than Miami MSA and nearly identical to Atlanta MSA (both big growth areas of the country right now), but the problem is that there's more people moving away than coming in - the difference here between it and say NYC and LA is that it has less international migration per 1000. Otherwise, it would be gaining quite a bit of population right now. NYC and LA slowed on that and now the areas are losing people.




Birth Rate per 1000 people (2018)
Columbus, OH: 12.94
Kansas City MSA: 12.61
Minneapolis MSA: 12.5
Milwaukee MSA: 12.19
Cincinnati MSA: 12.07
Chicago MSA: 11.75
St. Louis MSA: 11.5
Detroit MSA: 11.35
Cleveland: 10.85

Death Rate per 1000 people (2018)
Minneapolis MSA: 6.68
Columbus, OH MSA: 7.83
Chicago MSA: 7.92
Kansas City MSA: 8.29
Milwaukee MSA: 8.66
Cincinnati MSA: 9.21
Detroit MSA: 9.71
St. Louis MSA: 9.76
Cleveland MSA: 10.49

Net International Migration
Chicago MSA: +25,200 people
Detroit MSA: +12,280 people
Minneapolis: +8170 people
Columbus, OH MSA: +6597 people
Cleveland MSA: +5113 people
St. Louis MSA: +4242 people
Milwaukee MSA: +3664 people
Cincinnati MSA: +3590 people
Kansas City MSA: +1997 people

Net Domestic Migration
Minneapolis MSA: +7405 people
Columbus, OH MSA: +6764 people
Kansas City MSA: +5203 people
Cincinnati MSA: +580 people
Cleveland MSA: -7322 people
Milwaukee MSA: -8239 people
St. Louis MSA-9471 people
Detroit MSA: -14,546 people
Chicago MSA: -83,891 people

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Old 04-19-2019, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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The Twin Cities is the coldest metro and in probably the worst location in the midwest. Yet it continues to add 35,000 - 45,000 people every year. What is it about the Twin Cities that separates itself from other metro's in the midwest?
Ever been there? Quality of life and economy. It's a very active, very health conscious metropolitan area that works together as a region to build high quality transit, recreation and culture. They have a large well connected airport, two vibrant urban cores and nice suburbs not to mention a very large urban university.

Regardless of the cold weather, it's one of my personal favorite cities (top five in country) and I would live there in a heartbeat. For the record, the cold weather hardly slows anybody down there. A large amount of people continue to bike to work during the winter there.
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